Re: An example of a complete but undecidable theory

From: Herman Rubin (hrubin_at_odds.stat.purdue.edu)
Date: 07/05/04


Date: 5 Jul 2004 11:41:53 -0500

In article <slrnceimn0.381.cmenzel@philebus.tamu.edu>,
Chris Menzel <cmenzel@remove-this.tamu.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:37:48 GMT, Humberto Jose Bortolossi
><hjbortol-ufes@pop.com.br> said:
>> I'm looking for an example of a complete but undecidable
>> theory.

>> [By] complete I mean that every sentence in the theory
>> may be proved to be true or to be false.

>This isn't quite right -- I assume you are interested in talking about
>the usual definition of completeness. A theory T is complete if, for
>any sentence A in the language of the theory, either A or ~A is a
>theorem of T, that is, either A or ~A is provable from the axioms of T.

>> By decidable I mean there is an algorithm that (in a finite number of
>> steps) says if every sentence in the theory is true or false.

>Again, this is not the usual definition. A theory T is decidable if
>there is an algorithm for determining, for any sentence A, whether or
>not A is a theorem of T.

I believe this is the case, at least for all theories
for which the proofs can be enumerated.

I seem to recall a theorem of recursive function theory
which does prove this. Suppose we provide a 1-1 mapping
of all sentences in the language of the theory with the
set of positive integers. Then the set of numbers which
correspond to a theorem of T forms a recursively enumerable
set, as the proofs can also be enumerated. Likewise, the
set of numbers which correspond to the negation of a theorem
is a recursively enumerable set. But if a set and its
complement are recursively enumerable, the set is recursive;
this means that there is a algorithm which will decide if a
point is an element.

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