Re: Does a high SAT score predict mathematical talent?

From: Lefty (still_at_it.amazingly)
Date: 07/11/04


Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 05:30:47 GMT

I am of the opinion that excellence in anything has less to do with biology,
and much more to do with passion for that thing.

I do not believe in the quantification of intelligence, nor do I believe in
the quantification of passion. But passion is certainly more easily
understood than intelligence, which probably has no satisfactory definition.

I know what you are thinking at this point - and I dont really care. I'll
lay it on the line for you just one time only - consider your opportunity
for fame.

Education fails by killing passion which occurs naturally in every pupil.
Blame it on your unions, your school boards, your budgets, whatever you
like. But I'll gurantee that this is why some excell and others do not. Some
will escape the educational maze with their passion intact, while others
will be processed like tuna.

This is why many people actually "hate" math. Make no mistake, their hatred
is just a real as any other. Their hatred of all things mathematical is the
diametric opposite of passion. If the public school system would leave
people alone I actually believe that we would have a greater number of
mathematicians in our society.

And, there WERE prior cultures where mathematics flourished which lacked the
educational systems which we posses today, producing an entirely different
breed as well if you must know.

> Hi, everyone,
>
> I'm wondering what you think about efforts to identify future
> mathematicians of high talent at middle-school (junior high) age.
> I am aware of a long-term research study in the United States,
> including young people from around the world, called the Study of
> Mathematically Precocious Youth (SMPY).
>
> http://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/depts/psych_and_hd/smpy/default.htm
>
> Ascertainment of subjects for SMPY appears to be based almost
> entirely on scoring above a specified level on the SAT I math
> section before a specified (young) age. Some of the older cohorts
> in SMPY are now old enough to have entered full-time professional
> careers after completing graduate school. Have you encountered any
> SMPY participants in your professional activities? Does a high
> score on the SAT I math section
>
> http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/sat/about/SATI.html
>
> well predict who will be a talented mathematician as an adult?
>
> What other signs of incipient talent would you look for in, say, a
> thirteen-year-old child who declares a strong interest in math?
> What are reliable signs that a young person is NOT likely to reach
> the top level of performance in mathematics?
>
> I appreciate any comments or discussion anyone has on this point.
>
> Karl M. Bunday
> (remove ".de" to email)



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