Re: Speculative, but at least interesting

From: Bob Silverman (anonymous_at_mathforum.org)
Date: 09/07/04


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:41:48 +0000 (UTC)

On 07 Sep 2004, Marko Amnell wrote:
>anonymous@mathforum.org (Bob Silverman) wrote:
>
>> > "if somebody really has cracked the so-called Riemann hypothesis,
>> > financial disaster might follow. Suddenly all cryptic codes could be
>> > breakable. No internet transaction would be safe."
>>
>> Let's start here. A proof of R.H. would have ZERO, repeat ZERO
>> effect on cryptography.
>
>With the proviso that my knowledge of cryptography is limited to
>an elementary discussion of RSA public-key cryptography in
>Kenneth Rosen's _Elementary Number Theory and its Applications_
>(pp. 259-271; I re-read this section recently because of the brouhaha
>over de Branges's supposed proof of the RH), I'd just like to ask
>what is the thinking behind the apparent fear among experts that
>a proof of RH would endanger internet security? Keith Devlin comments
>on this in his book _The Millennium Problems_ as follows:

Keith Devlin is a fine mathematician; probably better than me.
He is not, however, an expert on breaking public key crypto.

When you say "among experts", to which experts do you refer?
Certainly factoring experts have no such fear.

>
>"Since the Riemann hypothesis tells us so much about the primes, a
>proof of that conjecture might well lead to a major breakthrough
>in factoring techniques.

This is vacuous.

> Indeed, some factoring
>methods work on the _assumption_ that it's true.

No. Shanks has a method based upon the infrastructure of quadratic
fields whose fully proved run time is O(N^1/4). We can prove a
faster run time if RH is true, but the correctness of the method
does NOT depend on RH. I know of no factoring methods which
depend on the correctness of RH in order to work.

Rather, the fear
>among the encryption community is that the _methods_ used to prove
>the hypothesis will involve new insights into the pattern of the
>primes that will lead to better factoring method." (p. 50)

I can't imagine how. Certainly some new technique discovered while
proving RH *might* lead to a new factoring technique. But this is
pure speculation. It might also be the case that some new technique
unrelated to RH will lead to a better factoring method. The 'RH'
part is a red-herring. As far as anyone currently knows, factoring
algorithms do NOT depend on gaps between primes.

>
>This is rather vague. Can anyone explain how a proof of the RH might
>allow someone to break the RSA codes? Inquiring minds want to know...

Noone knows how this might happen.



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