Re: Long threads, tactics

From: David C. Ullrich (ullrich_at_math.okstate.edu)
Date: 10/15/04


Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 04:52:15 -0500

On 14 Oct 2004 19:16:54 -0700, jstevh@msn.com (James Harris) wrote:

>If you look over the thread where I've been working on another paper
>you'll see a good reason for creating new threads.
>
>That one is now coming up on a 100 posts, with a lot of them coming
>from people who spend a lot of their time on Usenet trying to obscure
>what I'm saying.
>
>They do this deliberately, and it's an effective tactic.
>
>I've checked in various ways to watch interest in my work as it works
>its way around the world, as I move Google search results. As I post
>here Google and also Yahoo search results shift, so I watch them, and
>I can sort of map how effective some of these posters are.
>
>Real mathematicians would want to get to the bottom and find out
>what's true,

News flash: They've done that.

>but these people are practiced at trying to control what
>you think on the subject.
>
>If you didn't know it's worth mentioning that Erik Max Francis, a
>person who put up an insulting but popular webpage--according to
>Google which ranks it now about 9 for the name "James Harris"--used to
>post a lot on sci.math, and by now you should know about the
>sci.math'ers who got together to send emails and censor my paper out
>of an electronic math journal.
>
>These people are serious, and they have been practicing for years, as
>have I.
>
>As of now, I do more than move Google search results, as what I say
>gets read by quite a few people worldwide and it travels.
>
>Kids read it, adults read it. People who think read what I say.
>They're learning more about how even the math world is corrupted in
>ways they're seeing all over the world in many places, from Catholic
>priests, to businesses, to politics.

Giggle.

>They're a new generation, and they're learning rapidly.
>
>And what people arguing with me say, travels.
>
>The words weave their way out from here, and I can watch the war as it
>progresses around the globe, in waves, as attacks and battles play
>out.
>
>It's a fascinating struggle with me on one side and a dedicated group
>of people on the other, and they're not stupid people.
>
>By myself I have had to slowly slog through in what is basically a war
>of attrition, and part of that war is moving on when a thread gets
>clogged up by these people.
>
>Tomorrow I'll be looking at Google search results again to see how
>they've moved.
>
>Now, as I've put out this latest flurry of postings, they're moving on
>a day by day basis.
>
>It's that big. The impact on the math field is like nothing that has
>ever come before, and even at the fringes, like replies from obsessive
>posters, the impact is already worldwide.

Sorry to burst your cute little bubble, but the impact on the math
field has been absolutely zero.

You should make up your mind. Every once in a while you make a post
explaining that sci.math is not important. Then every once in a while
you make a post where it seems that you think that having an "impact"
here is the same as having an impact on the field of mathematics.
(The former is the one that's right, sorry.)

>It's like a growing hurricane.
>
>
>James Harris

************************

David C. Ullrich



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