Re: JSH: Polynomial multiples

From: Matt Grime (mattgrime_at_o2.co.uk)
Date: 10/18/04


Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:49:52 GMT

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:43:46 -0700, James Harris wrote:

> If you had even a basic math education then you learned about
> multiples of polynomials--you learned to divide them off.
>
> None of you have ever been taught that multiples of polynomials are
> varying functions that vary with the polynomial's variable, unless
> you're learning from sci.math'ers.
>
> Like P(x) = 4x^2 + 4x + 4 has a multiple of 4.
>
> If some freaking poster were arguing for years that the factors of
> P(m) have 4 divided off as function of x, would you be nodding along?
>
> No.
>

4 divides P(x) in this case in the ring of polynomials, and as such isn't
relevant to your discussion about divisibility in the ring of algebraic
integers.

After all, 2 divides x^2+x for all integer x in the integers (not in the
algebraic integers, just the integers), yet how it divides the factors x
and x+1 does depend on x.

6 also divides x(x-1)(x+1) for all integer x, again in the integers, want
explain how?

> But when yahoos argue with me, claiming that multiples of polynomials
> divide off as freaking functions of the polynomial variable, you
> nincompoops nod along, agree with them and call ME crazy.
>



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