Re: Largest provable BB(N)?

From: Dennis Ritchie (dmr_at_bell-labs.com)
Date: 10/29/04


Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:54:42 -0000


"Daniel A. Jimenez" <djimenez@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message news:clrj25$n2g$1@keel.cs.utexas.edu...
 ... [first quoting]

> > ....what is the highest N for which all
> >N-state Turing machines can be identified as halting/non-halting?
> >
> >Or to be more exact: I'm sure the exact N isn't known, so what's the
> >best guess, that people who know more mathematics than I do, would
> >give for what sort of figure it's likely to be?
>
> It will depend on how many symbols the Turing machine can use. An upper
> bound for N will be whatever the current smallest universal Turing
> machine is. Marvin Minsky came up with a 4-symbol, 7-state universal
> Turing machine; I don't know what the current smallest UTM is.

Shannon showed how to convert any TM into a 2-state TM.
As I recall there is only a polynomial growth in the symbol
set during the encoding. So N=2. I don't know whether
Minsky's |S|*|N| product has been improved.

    Dennis



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