Re: Google [was: Jesus christ What's going on?]

From: Eric Behr (behr_at_muir.math.niu.edu)
Date: 12/08/04 

Date: 8 Dec 2004 07:17:06 GMT

In article <slrncrcaf3.ft1.theo@linus.heise.nu>,
Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:
>On 7 Dec 2004 19:19:21 GMT,
> Eric Behr <behr@muir.math.niu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, let's see.
>> 0. Do a search.
>> 1. Click on a search result. Bottom of thread is shown.
>> 2. Scroll to top, click view as tree. Thread index shown, but blank
>> pane on the right.
>> 3. Click on an article in the tree index. Articles are shown as in 1.
>> 4. Click on "show options". Nothing happens. Aha, JavaScript.
>> 5. Enable JavaScript.
>
>The "show original" option is available in Lynx, so I don't think
>JavaScript is required.

Interesting. You're right, lynx shows it all even when you don't
click "show options". But despite that, no GUI browser I tried
showed anything other than the "Reply" link with JS turned off,
nor did it do anything when I clicked "show options". When JS is
turned on, Safari and Netscape do show you the "show original"
etc. after you click on "show options".

I looked at the source of that frame, and even in my browsers
it has "show original", "print", "report abuse", etc. None of these
show up in normal browser view, and it's way past my beauty sleep
time to try and unravel the incredibly messy HTML that Google now
pumps in our direction. This may be what Dik Winter is seeing and
not just a JavaScript question - some browsers interpret the new
Google HTML differently than others.

I also saw a tree view in the left frame that made absolutely
no sense. Here goes:
  search for "dik winter google"
  switch to "sort by date"
  choose his message from this thread, with tree view
The tree is divided into many segments, with different levels of
nesting, and I'd give my next cigar to whoever explains it to me
how it can be so discontinous.

Why the heck don't they put the old version back online? This is
all a huge cock-up that won't earn them much good will. 

-- 
Eric Behr          | NIU Mathematical Sciences      | (815) 753 6727
behr@math.niu.edu  | http://www.math.niu.edu/~behr/ |  fax: 753 1112

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