Re: Science, Philosophy, Mysticism, Art, Mathematics, and Physics

From: Albert (albertwagner_at_cox.net)
Date: 12/19/04 

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:33:37 -0600

Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> robert j. kolker wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Lester Zick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, QM doesn't explain the somehow, which is what a
>>> mechanics is supposed to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tell me. How does a Lagrangian formulation of mechanics explain
>> anything? What it does is imply some laws which when applied produce
>> good predictions. What makes you think there are entities behind the
>> appearences that behave mechanically? What evidence do you have.
>> Classical physics which was solidly mechanics is an empirical failure
>> which is why we have quantum theory and relativity. The truly
>> mechanical theories such as statistical mechanics are heuristics, not
>> fundemental models of reality. QM works. Relativity works. What more
>> do you want?
>>
>> Bob Kolker
>>
>
>
> Lester want to be recognised as the one who explains the _reasons why_
> everything is the way it is. But just why "mecvhanism" should be the
> reasons why, he can't say; nor why the mechnaism of "differences between
> doifferences" is the fundamental mechanism.
>
> IOW, Lester can't accept that things are simply what they are, and the
> best we can do is describe how things happen. IOW, he can't accept what
> I call the Fundamnetal Ignorance Theorem (first expressed by Bertrand
> Russell): When we know that we say is true, we don't know what it means.
> When we know what mean, we don't know if it's true.

To me, Fundamental Ignorance is that willed ignorance that you
display when you argue *against* explaining the _reasons why_
things are the way they are. An excellent reply for a novice
hoping for entry into the priesthood of Scientific Faith.

BTW, I prefer to judge Lester by his own words and not by your
revisionist interpretations of them.

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range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally 
impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
     -- George Orwell as Syme in "1984"

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