Re: JSH: Brainstorming

From: Karl-Olav Nyberg (konyberg_at_online.no)
Date: 01/01/05 

Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:11:32 +0100

"David C. Ullrich" <ullrich@math.okstate.edu> skrev i melding
news:arqat05a6ck4sa9kc879nd6o1c2eakkkga@4ax.com...
> On 31 Dec 2004 05:30:55 -0800, jstevh@msn.com wrote:
>
>>[...]
>>
>>But oddly, people arguing with me, keep relying on social games,
>>innuendo, and out and out lies, [...]
>>
>>You people behave like people living a lie.
>>
>>It makes sense to me now how vicious some of you have been, as that's
>>all you have. You can't win with the mathematics. You can't rely on
>>logic, objectivity and rational discourse, as then it's clear that I'm
>>right.
>>
>>So you cheat.
>>
>>The circle is closing on your society, as a major paper of mine is now
>>at the Annals,
>
> Let us know when it's accepted.
>
>>and as I find, to my own shock, that my fears about the
>>factoring problem were true, and it is solvable, in a way that
>>"mathematicians" said was impossible.
>
> You talk a lot about people lying, but curiously you lie a lot
> yourself. Take this statement about factoring. You know that nobody's
> ever said it was impossible. And you know that you're lying when you
> claim that you've shown it's possible - in your "paper" all you
> say is that a certain silly idea _might_ work.
>
> What, you're not lying? Then why haven't you solved the RSA
> challenge yet? You get actual money for that, you know.
>
>>And I feel the risk and vulnerability of living in a world endangered
>>by the lies of people who've proven they cannot be trusted.
>>
>>I am trying to understand how this happened. How could such a minority
>>potentially cause so much trouble?
>>
>>I think it is that mathematics is a hard discipline, but human beings
>>can be too soft in many ways, and not understand just how hard it is.
>>
>>I think soon many more of you will understand.
>>
>>There is no forgiveness in Mathematics. It is not soft in any way, at
>>all.
>>
>>There is no mercy in Mathematics. It doesn't understand the concept.
>>In Mathematics, there is only truth.
>>
>>
>>James Harris
>
>
> ************************
>
> David C. Ullrich

Why can I not see the original post, only answers scattered all ower this
group?
KON

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