Re: JSH: Fantasy versus reality in math society

From: David C. Ullrich (ullrich_at_math.okstate.edu)
Date: 02/01/05 

Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:53:51 -0600

On 1 Feb 2005 05:02:11 -0800, jstevh@msn.com wrote:

>[...]
>
>For those who believe posters who claim I don't prove anything, then
>there is my prime counting function, where they simply switched to
>claiming a new result was an old one!!!

Probably because it's an old result?

>As an experiment I put my prime counting function on the Wikipedia
>writing the entire article. You could see how a concise prime counting
>function fits nicely in an encyclopedia artice, and I saw it as an
>opportunity to see if the math world could behave at all like expected.

So I gather it's you responsible for the thing beginning

"One recent discovery is the following (disputed — see talk page):"

at

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prime_counting_function&oldid=8190874

>It just sat there mostly, though a few Wikipedians came in, one to make
>some criticisms which I addressed, and one to make some minor edits.

Not exactly. There's the guy responsible for the "disputed" above,
who says

"This is a very strange stub. The format does not fit very well with
other math articles, the style is rather poor, and there is an
accuracy issue as well (this is what has prevented me from expanding
the stub). If I am reading everything correctly, the "recent"
discovery is a modified/obfuscated Legendre-Meissel recursion
(http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LegendresFormula.html) (we're just
counting composite numbers by inclusion-exclusion). Suggestions?

Alodyne 01:06, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)"

at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Prime_counting_function#Disputed

Very curious, this Alodyne guy saying on wikipedia exactly what
the sci.math people have said.

You should really refrain from posting your crap on wikipedia, by
the way.

>But mostly it just sat there.
>
>You can see my article at
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prime_counting_function&oldid=9142249
>
>in the history of the page.
>
>One thing I thought interesting was that the article "Prime counting
>function" on Wikipedia *used* to be found on search engines like Google
>and Yahoo! before I edited it, even though it at that time merely
>redirected to a site on the prime number theorem, but after a while, it
>dropped from those search engines.
>
>These people are playing social games.

************************

David C. Ullrich

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