Re: juggling's combinatorics problem with siteswap

From: Xah Lee (xah_at_xahlee.org)
Date: 02/13/05


Date: 13 Feb 2005 14:06:01 -0800

btw, if you are not a juggler, but find it fascinating, there's a
software called JugglingLab that can simulate by a visual display any
juggling siteswap pattern. From a math perspective, it's more
fascinating than watching people juggling. The software can be
downloaded at
http://jugglinglab.sourceforge.net/

some more thoughts on orbits...

a pattern can have several orbits, but two orbits may be the same. For
example, one hand juggling two balls. Now, both hand does that. That's
a pattern with 2 orbits, but same. They are mirror images. Mirror image
orbits are not necessarily shows only in patterns where each hand minds
its own business.

suppose one hand juggles 2 balls in a cycle. (i.e. shower). That's one
orbit.
suppose one hand juggles 3 balls in a cycle. (i.e. shower). That's one
orbit. Now suppose one throws a ball really high, then do two small
throws of the other two balls, then the 1st ball came down and throw it
high again, then two small throws with the other 2 balls... this
pattern would be 2 orbits. Now a similar pattern with high and low
throws with 3 balls one hand can be made so that it has just one orbit,
such a ball of any color will go thru the same pattern.

in pattern 64645 (5 balls), there are 3 orbits, 2 distinct ones.
Essentially, each hand independently juggles 2 balls, and another ball
goes from hand to hand by itself.

One may ask the question, given a specific orbit, what patterns are
possible using that orbit with n balls.

another concept is that some orbits are entirely juggled by a single
hand, as in many of the above examples. In network theory jargon, we
can call it a loop, as it connects only to itself.

sorry for the rather incoherent ramble... will have to think about
these more coherently and perhaps put together a nice account in the
future.

 Xah
 xah@xahlee.org
 http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html



Relevant Pages

  • Re: jugglings combinatorics problem with siteswap
    ... The period number can be given depending on whether the balls are ... the period of a pattern is given as if all ... least two types), number of orbits, distinct orbits (a pattern can have ... We can consider a hand as a node in a network. ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: jugglings combinatorics problem with siteswap
    ... (4 balls tennis pattern) ... And siteswap always mean canonical siteswap ... ... For example, for pattern 53444, the cp is 30. ... * obs = the number of orbits in a pattern. ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: jugglings combinatorics problem with siteswap
    ... There has been some mathematical interest in the maths of juggling, ... I'm not sure if many juggling tricks are made up of more than two orbits. ... > balls are of the same color... ... For example, what patterns are ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: Randomness
    ... > the selections are not _independently_ random because once a ball is ... > remaining balls is changed. ... Isn't evolution the exactly relevant example? ... This includes the wide-branching bush or tree pattern, ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Juggling accidents
    ... With solid I mean that I can qualify the pattern anytime I want to. ... At the time I am also practicing Mills Mess. ... How long will it take me to learn Mills Mess? ... Descending balls are hitting my spectacles. ...
    (rec.juggling)