Re: Gabriel's Theorem - what I have learned thus far.
From: Angus Rodgers (angus_prune_at_bigfoot.com)
Date: 02/23/05
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:33:47 +0000
On 23 Feb 2005 11:45:19 -0800, "Jason" <logamath@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I consider myself an equal.
Equal to whom, in what respect? You have the same rights and
duties as anyone else, if that's what you mean. But what you
say may not make equal sense to what somebody else says. You
may not have equal experience and judgement. And so on.
>Your initial prejudice is just that: an unfounded, biased and
>discriminatory approach to anyone or anything you don't care about.
No, a tentative judgement on the likely value of a mathematical
contribution, based on the sloppy and apparently delusional way
in which it was presented, which gave me no incentive to explore
any further --- although, with hindsight, I would probably have
wasted less time if I had looked at the maths (instead of being
lazy, and then feeling duty-bound to read the surprisingly huge
number of followup articles, to see if I'd misjudged you/him).
>How did you expect me to respond when you attacked me the way
>you did?
I didn't, and still don't, give a toss!
The real question is, how did /you/ expect anyone to respond, when
you marched into a Usenet newsgroup - having apparently not the
slightest grasp of basic netiquette (and possibly also assuming
a false identity) - posted a link to a crank website, then told
the first person to respond (mildly and reasonably, IMHO) that he
shouldn't post any more? (Actually, I hadn't /intended/ to post
any more - having had little to say, and said it all! - but you
chose to insult me, and I chose not to ignore it.)
>Is this how you deal with the people you work with? I don't think so.
It's certainly easier to tell fools exactly what you think of
them on the Internet than it is in Real Life! On the other
hand, people in Real Life don't usually behave the way /you/
did from the instant you arrived here.
Is that the way you usually behave?
>No one has automatic respect. You want respect, then you treat those
>around you with respect no matter how stupid or idiotic they may or may
>not appear to be.
Since you haven't bothered to learn how to quote, I don't
know what you think you are responding to here. ... O.K.,
I've looked it up: I observed that even if I hadn't been
too lazy to look at the maths, you would probably have
treated me in the same ridiculously insulting way in which
you treated all those people who /did/ bother to do what
you asked.
I can only conclude that you treat any criticism of John
Gabriel's work as a sign of personal disrespect to you -
which suggests that you are John Gabriel.
>Cranks: You actually followed in the footsteps of most of your
>predecessors who had the same biased approach. The greates
>mathematicians were always dismissed as cranks, fools and scum of the
>earth because their work was not understood.
No, they weren't. Galois had an amazingly hard time, though,
and you might enjoy reading an account of his life, if you
haven't already. (And please don't get all insulted if you
have!)
-- Angus Rodgers (angus_prune@ eats spam; reply to angusrod@) Contains mild peril
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