Re: JSH: A theorem can't be wrong

jstevh@xxxxxxx wrote:

> It seems odd that I need to remind that a theorem cannot be wrong.

You don't need to remind anyone "that a theorem cannot be wrong". You need
to accept that your claims and assertions *can* be wrong (and probably are)
or, in the event that your theorem *is* true, but is trivial, you need to
accept that no one cares.

> So the surrogate factoring theorem (SFT) cannot be wrong.

That does not follow. (See above)

> Now the issue of how well it factors can be raised, but that's separate
> from it's "pure" validity as a theorem.

If it doesn't factor, it has no value. You keep covering up the fact that
your "work" was directed toward solving the so-called "factoring problem".
You claimed you had solved it. If your 'theorem' does not yield a solution
you have failed.

> That's an important point as the SFT is a theorem unlike any other in
> that it is a general solution to the difference of squares.
>
> No such solution has ever been given in human history.

Did I ever tell you the joke about the flea with an erection doing a
backstroke down a river yelling, "Raise the drawbridge!" Oh, I did? Sorry,
but I always think of this joke when I read your posts.

> I like pushing away from the factoring problem to focus on the SFT
> being a theorem because there I can talk about absolutes.
>
> Working out factoring algorithms is a practical matter that can have a
> lot of reasons for variations in efficacy, including human error, or
> dumb implementation.
>
> Now then, so what? What does it mean for the SFT to be perfectly
> right?
>
> What does it mean for any mathematics to be perfectly right?
>
> Here it's a bit of a social thing I think that I need to focus--on a
> math newsgroup--on the pure math aspect of the SFT.
>
> Before there's the practicality, there is the perfection of a theorem.

And the imbecility of:

> James Harris



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  • Re: JSH: A theorem cant be wrong
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  • Factoring problem and the SFT
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  • Re: JSH: Brainstorming over, for now
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  • Re: SF: Generalized SFTs
    ... I suggest you follow the algebraic proof. ... and no flavor of SFT to date is any help with that. ... He doesn't have a factoring method here, just a proof that factors can be ... So why won't James try it? ...
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