Re: abundance of irrationals!)
- From: Tony Orlow (aeo6) <aeo6@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:09:14 -0400
Virgil said:
> In article <1115808674.466909.326260@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> mueckenh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Russell wrote:
> >
> > > No. The obvious linear enumeration of *nodes* is not an
> > > enumeration of the reals. For that, you need to enumerate
> > > the different paths. That's not merely a rearrangement of
> > > the enumeration of nodes; if you think it is, then please
> > > tell us how you associate each node with one and only one
> > > path. Can't be done.
> >
> > Tell us how you associate Cantor's antidiagonal with one and only one
> > line, e.g., where it ends. Cant't be done.
> >
> > But the nodes can be shown to be not less than the paths.
>
> I challenge you to show this. I claim that one can ennumerate the nodes
> but not the paths.
>
> Each node can be represented by a finite string of zeros and ones, the
> root node by one digit string, "1", and given any finite string, "s",
> representing a node, the left and right nodes at the next level by "s0"
> and "s1", respectively.
>
> Since interpreting these as binary integers counts them, they are
> countable.
>
> For the infinite strings needed to represent paths, a somple diagonal
> costruction will show that no list can be complete.
>
>
>
> > It is not
> > possible to say which node belongs to some single path.
>
> Why not?
>
There is a 1-1 correspondence between the points and lines, the nodes and
branches. You have not specified exactly what you mean by branch, so i will
define it as a line connecting two nodes. Perhaps you mean a string of such
connections, in which case that is also specified by the string of digits
denoting each number, 0 for left branch and 1 for right.
We start with the root node. It has no corresponding branch, but you could hang
it from one if you wanted, perhaps off the null set of digits. No matter. Every
additional node you add requires precisely one additional branch segment, to
attach it to its parent node. This is obvious.
--
Smiles,
Tony
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