Re: Cantor's Theory sucks



david petry wrote:

> George Orwell wrote, "some ideas are so stupid that only
> intellectuals can believe them." Cantor's Theory is an
> example of such an idea.

Well, it certainly is not nearly as stupid as your own idea to call it
"stupid", as Goedel would have said.

> The problem with Cantor's Theory is that it is not
> grounded in reality. In contrast, mathematics very
> definitely is grounded in reality.

> The reality underlying mathematics is computation. That
> is something which everyone accepts as a reality.

Yes, everyone who is a programmer.

Of course, if you limit yourself to computation, then there is no place
for real numbers and for everything else that uses them.

Which prety much eliminates 99% of all math.

> The computer revolution gives us an enlightened way of
> looking at mathematics. We can think of the computer as
> a microscope into the world of computation, and mathematics
> is the science which studies that world.

Yes, and we can view physics as the science dedicated to measuring
voltage in Energizer batteries.

> Mathematics is about truth. Truth necessarily has
> observable implications. It must be grounded in reality.
> The theorems of Cantor's Theory are not truths.

Sure they are. Every theorem in math, if correct, is truth.

But, of course, not every theorem is helpful to you personally. Cantor
Theory seems to be of no use to you. Maybe you should try to ignore it
and leave it to those who find it useful to them?

> Formal systems, such as Cantor's Theory, are objects that
> live in the world of computation, and hence, they are
> things to be studied in mathematics. But that doesn't
> justify the special status that Cantor's Theory is
> currently given in the mathematics community.

Well, you have a full right to demand that all mathematicians who like
it be fired from their jobs.

> Contrary to what some mathematicians seem to believe,
> consistency does not favor Cantor's Theory. We can be
> perfectly consistent defining mathematics to be the
> science of phenomena observable in the world of
> computation.

Why such a wide scope? Why not limit math to be the science of
phenomena observable only in Google searches?

> So why are intellectuals attracted to such stupid ideas
> as Cantor's Theory? Due to the structure of our society,
> intellectuals tend to value cleverness, consistency,
> complexity, and even sensationalism, more highly than
> truth. We live in a sick society.
>
> Cantor's Theory sucks more than any theory has ever
> sucked before.

David Petry wrote on Feb 1 1997:

>whitesh...@xxxxxxx (Whiteshoe2) wrote:
>>Ever read the Talmud??? Their hatred for Christians dwarfs >>the
hatred Identity has for Jews.

>Could somebody post a few examples from the Talmud, or >perhaps a web
page
>address where I could find such examples?

Could your own inexplicable and burning hatred of Cantor stem from him
having a Jewish-sounding name?

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