Re: Creating functions for Kabbalah
- From: Corey White <CoreyWhite@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:22:02 -0000
"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:1124249967.616685.263680@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> CoreyWhite@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> If I say one = 72058143793758208 two = 73787257769815441408 three =
>> 324518558494720301052040015511552
>>
>> How would I define f:(1,2,3)->(one,two,three) that maps 1->one, 2->
two,
>> and 3->three ?
>>
>> I've created a code that gives every word, phrase, and letter in the
>> english language a unique number.. I'm trying to create function now
>> that produce meaninfull relationships within the language..
>
> Good luck. There are isolated examples using isolated methods; the
most
> common one is
>
> ELEVEN + TWO - ONE = TWELVE.
>
> This works out okay mathemtically. But now, write down the letters in
> ELEVEN, write down the letters in TWO, and cross out the letters in
> ONE. If you rearrange the letters you have left, you can spell out
> TWELVE.
>
I think it is possible to do this, but I am not trying to say it is
intentional to do this within our language. I just feel it is possible
to find a pattern between any number of things and any other number of
things. So I feel with the correct encoding scheme, and the correct
functions, and certain ideas you wished to express... plugging your
words into the schemes and functions could translate them into what you
were trying to express. It would be a kind of AI.
> Here's another exercise for you. Prove that there is no function f
> mapping letters of the alphabet to real numbers such that each of the
> number names from 1 to 9 in English adds up to its value.
>
> That is, show that it's impossible to have
>
> f(O) + f(N) + f(E) = 1
> f(T) + f(W) + f(O) = 2
> ...
> f(N) + f(I) + f(N) + f(E) = 9
>
> at the same time. It's actually not too difficult.
>
>> It is like Kabbalah that actually works.
>
> Do you actually believe that? Do you really believe that Hebrew is a
> language which was CREATED by Number Theorists? (Especially in light
of
> the puzzle I gave you?)
>
I don't know, but I'll think about your puzzle.
> A few years ago, I thought about what Kabbalah and came up with the
> conclusion that one of three things must be true, in order for it to
> work:
>
> (1) Hebrew really works, which means it was created by number
> theorists;
> (2) There are some coincidences, but most of Kabbala is a stretch; and
> (3) It's a joke that Jews decided to play on the world.
>
Again I'm not sure.
>> "Just use a base 26 system: Let A = 0, B = 1, C = 2, ..., Z = 25,
>> then assign to the word a_1 a_2 a_3 a_4 ... a_k the number
>>
>> a_1 + 26 a_2 + 26^2 a_3 + ... + 26^(k-1) a_k.
>>
>>
>> You can also use an encoding based on factorization. For instance,
you
>> can encode the finite sequence of numbers a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4, ...,
a_k
>> as
>>
>> 2^(a_1) * 3^(a_2) * 5^(a_3) * 7^(a_4) * ... * (kth prime)^(a_k),
>>
>> and the outcome will be unique. " --- Christopher Heckman
>
> Things similar to what you want to do have been done -- for instance,
> there is a way to assign numbers to letters to make HITLER add up to
> 666 -- but again, it's an ad-hoc thing; nothing works universally.
>
> --- Christopher Heckman
>
>
If you look at mathematics as a language the same as english it seems
possible to actually create a working system of kaballah. The alphabet
would just be an extension of mathematics, where each letter had a
number. Then the language itself would be constructed so that concepts
you wished to express in the language could be mathematical This
wouldn't have to express universal truths, but could formalize accepted
notions. You have mentioned some isolated cases of this happening, but
has anyone tride to invent their own language?
I feel that if I developed a correct encoding method for the numbers,
and correct functions to be ran on those numbers, I could create a
working kabballah to express ideas outside of strict mathematics that I
coded into the system. You don't believe this is possible.
.
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