Re: Me and David C. Ullrich
- From: David C. Ullrich <ullrich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 04:06:19 -0500
On 8 Oct 2005 07:12:35 -0700, "Elmo" <elmoritz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>[...]
>I had occasion to visit Oklahoma State University. I found Dr. Ullrich
>in the Student Center. He said I was not welcome there.
I may have been wrong about that - I told you what I thought it
said on the door of the building, but later I couldn't find that
statement.
Anyway, as long as you feel like mentioning this behavior
of yours in public, let's give the full story:
I arrived at the Student Union looking for lunch. You introduced
yourself. I was politely dismissive and walked over to buy a
sandwich.
You joined me in line and offered to buy me lunch. I politely
declined, saying I'd rather buy my own lunch. You went back to
your table.
I got my sandwich. As I was looking for a table you invited
me to join you. I didn't, instead finding my own table.
You didn't seem to realize that if I wanted to discuss your
obsession I would have joined you - you got up and
joined me at my table, uninvited. You started going on
about heads and tails - I said I didn't want to discuss
it.
After a while I gave up - I got up and moved to
another table in an adjoining room. You followed me
and joined me at the second table, again uninvited,
in spite of the fact that it _must_ have been clear
to you that I was not interested in having you join
me for lunch.
I pointed out (erroneously, it appears) that on the
door of the building it said that the Student Union
was open to university students and staff, and to
the public for special events. I repeated this a
few times and you finally left.
A few days later I got an email from you explaining
that I should not have been intimidated by a little
old guy like you. Since I had nothing to say to that
(intimidation was not the problem) I didn't reply.
Some time after that I got another email from you,
in which you threatened to report me to the
university administration (I _think_ you specified
the president and the chancellor) if I continued
to refuse to discuss the question with you.
I replied to that one, explaining that while you
had the right to post whatever you want on the
internet you do _not_ have the right to intrude
on my personal life this way. You don't - the
next time you behave this way I _will_ be
calling the university police.
No, you're not welcome to join me at lunch
uninvited. No, you're not welcome in my office,
unless some day you're enrolled in a class I'm
teaching. No, you're not welcome to show up on
my door step at home.
No, I'm not required to explain why you're
not welcome in any of those places, any more
than I'm required to discuss the question
about heads and tails with you.
>He refused to
>discuss the question with me there, as he has refused to discuss it
>here.
The _reason_ you're free to post whatever you want on the internet,
as oppposed to harassing me the way you did that day, is that
when you post something on the internet anyone who feels like
paying no attention can simply ignore your post. But for
the record, it's not true that I've refused to discuss this
with you here. I've explained that your assertion that this
and that mean different things is simply wrong. And that's
all the discussion that _that_ question merits - if you
have a problem understanding simple English it seems
pointless to try to explain things to you, because
there's no reason to think that you're going to
understand the English in the explanation any better
than you understand that this and that do mean the
same thing.
>[...]
>
>Dr. Ullrich seems to be somewhat of a fakir. He plays a lot of
>bachgammon.
That's "faker", and "backgammon".
>He argues a lot in this forum.
>He does not seem to publish.
Hmm. That's a comment on my professional competence. And
it's demonstrably false, as others here have already
pointed out - it's very easy to go to standard public
references and _see_ that it's false.
You should really be careful about making false
statements about people in public. I'm free to
express my opinion that George Bush is an idiot, and
that appointing him president was one of the biggest
blunders the Supreme Court ever made. But if I
said that he seems to molest children in his spare
time I could get in trouble for that. Just a thought.
>He draws a paycheck at OSU, I guess, wonder if he has tenure?
>
>When you accept that "given at least one" and told, "at least one" are
>different; then it's easy to get from:
>
>P(hh|at least one h) = 1/3 to
>P(hh|told "at least one h) = 1/2.
>
>Eldon Moritz
>elmoritz@xxxxxxxxx
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David C. Ullrich
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