Re: infinity ...


David Kastrup wrote:
> Tony Orlow <aeo6@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > stephen@xxxxxxxxxx said:
> >> Tony Orlow <aeo6@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > stephen@xxxxxxxxxx said:
> >> >> albstorz@xxxxxx wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > But there is a slight difference. Since there is no infinite
> >> >> > natural in form of a set of Os and since after every set of #s
> >> >> > there should be a O, the size of the set of the naturals as
> >> >> > sets of #s could not extend the "biggest" number of the
> >> >> > naturals in form of sets of Os. Since there is no biggest
> >> >> > number and since there is no infinite number, the size of the
> >> >> > set of numbers in form of sets of #s is undefined as the
> >> >> > biggest natural number is undefined.
> >> >>
> >> >> Whoever said the size of a set has anything to do with the
> >> >> "biggest" element?
> >> > Stephen, did you even look at the diagrams he presented? Do you
> >> > not see that the width of the square and the height are the
> >> > same. Do you not see that the width is the count of naturals and
> >> > the height is the value? The picture said so, that's who.
> >>
> >> What square? The sides of a square are line segments. The four
> >> corners of the square are defined by the ends of those line
> >> segments. If your lines extend indefinitely, then there is no
> >> square.
> >>
> >> This is not a square:
> >> +-----------.....
> >> |
> >> |
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .
> >>
> >> A square has four corners. This only has one "corner".
> >> Remember, infinite lines do not end. Not even "at infinity".
> > (sigh) As Albrecht said, the square is defined by the diagonal at 45
> > degrees.
>
> There is no "diagonal" for something that has only one corner.
>
> > For every natural value represented by 0's in the diagram there is
> > an equal count represeted by #'s.
>
> It does not make sense to talk about "an equal count" for things that
> don't end.
>
> > This is the identity relationship between count and value that I've
> > been talking about. Think of it as the limit of a square as the side
> > goes to oo. Your objection is just another form of "No Largest
> > Finite!! No Diagonal Corner!!! (jingle jangle)" Oh, nice wind
> > chime!!
>
> Well, too bad that you insist on making the same mistake all over
> again. Small wonder you get your nose rubbed into it all over again.
>
> --
> David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum


You are not able to respond to my concept. You prefer to correct all
over again the same mistakes (if you are shure to accord with the
majority in this aspect). It's the usual dishonest of the dogmatic
people. Or are you anxious to disgrace yourself?

If you have two straight lines, suptending at point Zero, what is the
rectangular distance from a point in infinity laying on the one
straight line to the other?

Regards
AS

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