Re: Am I a crank?

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:08:10 GMT, "*** T. Winter" <***.Winter@xxxxxx>
wrote:

In article <1g6ef29j95erganm4b51kteh5ab6d7pcdf@xxxxxxx> Lester Zick <dontbother@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
...
Zick claims that mathematicians claim their axioms to be true.
What evidence does he have of this claim?
Like most of his claims here, none!

Actually Zick claims that modern mathematikers claim their axioms are
not true.

Mathematicians do not claim axioms to be either true or false. They are
non-provable basic assumptions. And when reasoning within a certain set
of axioms they are assumed to be true.

Okay. So how exactly can they be assumed true if their axioms are not
assumed true?

Whether they are true or false
outside that certain set of axioms is not stated.

Obviously. The problem is that they're routinely assumed true and
referred to as true without regard to assumptions of truth for their
axioms. So are definitions.All that is really demonstrated of theorems
is the absence of logical inconsistency between them and their axioms
and not truth.

~v~~
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