Re: PI random? Debate running in circles (you try making math jokes)

Mathematics has logical rules and relations to deal with
all your philosophical concerns about arithmetic. There
is no crisis.

Tom


I dont think it's a crisis either. Frankly I think it's a thing of
beauty. But most people are trained to think deterministically.

What I am saying is that based on the original question, the value of
"a" is strictly indeterminate.

This does not invalidate any math - rather - I think that it adds quite
a bit of beauty to the the real number zero. And hopefully might
clarify some misguided ideations of randomness.

Zero is an "existentially nontrivial" number which represents a trivial
quantity. An "nontrivial trivial".


I dont intend to be malicious by saying this, but math "fails" to
explain why zero acts singularly.

I feel that this should be settled.

I am not trying to invalidate arithmetic - rather - I feel that I am
reinforcing it.

I have never seen an explanation anywhere such as that which I've
presented here, and I think that this is very important stuff which
must be understood.

The fact that zero is so intimately related to indeterminacy, as I have
explained it - this is a very amazing thing to me. In my opinion, will
allow a better understanding of order/disorder, and will lead to a
solution of Hilbert's 6th problem.

Clearly, "The existence of a trivial is indeterminate", can be applied
here to state that the solution to a * 0 = 0 is indeterminate, because
0 is a trivial quantity. Real and existent, but trivial nonetheless.
The exstence of a solution is indeterminate. "a" is indeterminate.

This is a very powerful theorem, and can be proved.

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