Re: TI 84 vs HP calc?

Virgil wrote:
In article <eprpf8$e2m$00$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
kilian heckrodt <kilianheckrodt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Virgil wrote:
In article <d55vr252g485qfovngqo0jg9tna7emcjah@xxxxxxx>, me@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

"Dirk Van de moortel"
<dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In every way, specially if they use RPN.
OK.....I'm not taking any classes yet that use RPN but
which model HP in your mind is the equiv to the TI 84
Plus?

But you're about to find out that since 3 decades there's a
global civil war going on over this.
yeah......I'm aware of that ongoing debate. <sigh>
Try the HP50.

Stiff learning curve, but you are learning a lot more about mathematics in the process of learning RPN and the HP CAS than in learning the TI.

TI's are designed more for students.
HP's are designed more for working mathematicians, scientists and engineers, where the answers aren't in the back of the book.
hmm ..... are you sure that the HP have a better CAS than TI89 and up (Derive). It is true that TIs are mostly designed for education - however as working mathematician (aside from teaching engineers or at highschool) i wouldn't touch a calculator anyway but use a PC/laptop with CAS.

So from a math students perspective I would buy whatever calculator you might need for your written exams (so the cheapest or possibly none at all) and use a PC or a laptop otherwise.

If you need a free CAS check for maxima.

Is there a Mac OS X version of maxima? I didn't find one.

Not sure, there might be no binaries, meaning you maybe to compile the
sourcecode. I only know for sure that there windows and linux binaries.

http://maxima.sourceforge.net/

btw there are webinterfaces for maxima (and other free cas available):

http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/index.html

Also since the discussion started of with calculators, instead of buying
an expensive calculator it might be worth to consider student licences
of big commercial CAS like Maple,Mupad,Mathematica

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    ... Stiff learning curve, but you are learning a lot more about mathematics ... in the process of learning RPN and the HP CAS than in learning the TI. ... HP's are designed more for working mathematicians, ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: TI 84 vs HP calc?
    ... Stiff learning curve, but you are learning a lot more about mathematics in the process of learning RPN and the HP CAS than in learning the TI. ... HP's are designed more for working mathematicians, scientists and engineers, where the answers aren't in the back of the book. ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: TI 84 vs HP calc?
    ... Learning the theory of RPN for calculators takes 10 seconds. ... Give the calculator the numbers and then tell it what to ... : Poor students. ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: TI user tempted by 50g
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