Re: help understanding sons math homework (cross posted to math.rec)
- From: hrubin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Herman Rubin)
- Date: 31 Mar 2007 22:26:54 -0400
In article <krqdnXD6vuOVw5TbnZ2dnUVZ8s2mnZ2d@xxxxxx>,
Nick <tulse04-news1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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In <1174268601.248664@athnrd02>, on 03/19/2007
at 03:43 AM, "Ioannis" <morpheus@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
For a six year old it *IS* a difficult question.
For some; not for all.
You are the one who's sad. And clueless in education, among other
things.
ITYM that I pay attentional to what real children can do instead of
what educational theorists tell you that they can do. One, thing,
however, that I have never learned is to suffer fools gladly. Meet Mr.
Filter. FOAD.
What real children are these? Are these the ones who are playing with Lego
or their Playstations.
Children whose parents have taught them to read with
phonics, not by word recognition. Children who have
been exposed to structure and reasoning, not merely
memorization and routine. Children who have not been
told that they will learn the reasons later.
There are a few brilliant children who can do these things, but the norm.
I do not know how large the proportion is, but those
who cannot learn to think early will not learn it later.
The "new math" got across to children when people who
could understand abstract concepts taught them; the
teachers could not learn these. Logical presentations
make sense to children who have not had it knocked out
of them.
No doubt, the maths professor prefers talking to these super-intelligent
children - and as we have seen from this group that either students or their
parents end up posting the group asking how to do these questions.
These are NOT super-intelligent. The ones who cannot
do this as children, and who do not have a treatable
learning defect, are VERY unlikely to do this as adults.
What we are finding now is that at least a large portion,
if not most, of our college students cannot do a
calculus course if they had to understand what a
derivative and integral are, not just how to compute them.
Can we ask the OP what the result was as far as the rest of the kids or
their parents were concerned?
If they cannot do it, they will not be able to understand
anything of mathematics.
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