Re: Authorship of Publications
- From: junoexpress <MTBrenneman@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 27 May 2007 09:50:02 -0700
On May 27, 2:19 am, Gerry Myerson <g...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In article <1180214797.901117.205...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Eric.Go...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello everyone,
I am a graduate student who is now about to submit my first paper to
be published. I am told that the enforced policy of my department is
to have the student's research supervisor included as a co-author of
the paper if the problem originated from the supervisor. In my
situation, my supervisor gave me the problem to work on. I developed
all the mathematics myself and wrote the article myself. We did talk
about it a little, mostly when I was demonstrating the results of
simulations. I was financially supported as a research assistant under
my supervisor, so it was required that my work satisfies the
expectations of my supervisor. I have no problem with acknowledging my
supervisor with defining the problem and help in defining what
constitutes a suitable result. Without my supervisor the research
would not have been performed and the paper not written. However, I
usually think of "author" as someone who has directly written the
paper. Now, I understand that in large collaborations sometimes there
are many authors. I just wanted to ask some successful professional
mathematicians what they consider "authorship" to mean. My main
concern is that of academic honesty.
Finally, if you have supervised student's research, I would be very
grateful to know who you listed as the author(s) of your student's
papers. In the future (not so distant I hope), I will be in this
situation and I would like to see how others handle it, so I can get a
feel of what options I have. My first impulse would be to try to guide
the student's own research so that it is up to academic standards, and
then give my student's full credit for authorship, unless I had some
of my own unpublished results in the paper as well.
Others have suggested you follow the traditions in your field.
If your field is not mathematics, I'm not sure why you're posting here.
From my experience in mathematics, the supervisor never puts his name
on research carried out by the student.
--
Gerry Myerson (g...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (i -> u for email)
While I'm on my soap-box, I just wanted to add that I didn't mean to
say you should never make waves and do whatever your advisor tells you
to do. You *should* stand up for your principles. Just make sure
that's what you're really doing here. I think that in your situation,
the issues you raise are really minor.
You should also realize that with funding the way it is these days, a
lot of people trained in math don't publish in pure math journals, (as
is my case) so you should be aware of this "alternate reality" and be
able to deal with. Anyhow, I don't think it's probably too far off
base to say that these types of objections rarely end up well (esp if
you're on the bottom) *even* in math. The only significant counter-
example I can think of is that of Courant and Robbins, where Robbins
did basically all of the work for the book "What is Mathematics?" and
the Courant left his name off the book altogether (which is different
than your case). Robbins fought for (rightly) and got his name on the
book.
And BTW, many of Courant's friends in the established math community
talked to Robbins privately and told him "that is was tradition" for
the main person to only have his name on the book. So use your head,
learn to think for yourself, and don't always go by "tradition" as a
principle. ;>).
M
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