Re: About random, primes and statistics
- From: "john707070@xxxxxxxxx" <john707070@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:50:57 EDT
On Aug 20, 8:31 pm, JSH <jst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Knowing that statistics is an area of mathematicsthat physics
students get rather familiar with I thought it'd beof interest to
explain a simple area where mathematiciansroutinely lie--I think in
order to keep research grants.7 mod 3 = 1, where
First you need to learn a bit of number theory, as
1 is the residue modulo 3, so the bit of math isthat shown x mod y,
you take x-ky where k is the largest positiveinteger that will fit,
and use what's left over, which is the residue.thing about numbers
I picked 3 because there is a fascinatingly boring
modulo 3--perfect regularity:out to infinity
Starting at 1 and counting up you have
1, 2, 3 followed by 4, 5, 6 followed by 7, 8, 9 on
repeated on out to
which modulo 3 gives
1, 2, 0 followed by 1, 2, 0 followed by 1, 2, 0
infinity.that but it will
(It's like a perfect waltz to infinity!!!)
That is an absolute and I'd say a trivial one at
challenge everything you think you know aboutmathematicians as decent
researchers as you have primes and you havecomposites and composites
are products of primes--kind of like theirchildren!--so if primes
tended to pick a particular residue modulo 3, thencomposites would
follow along!2.
But they don't. They split evenly between 0, 1 and
evenly between
Therefore, I strongly suggest to you, primes split
having a residue of 1 and 2 modulo 3.than 3 modulo 3 will
If that is true then the residue of a prime other
be random.greater than 3:
Here is what you get with the first 23 primes
1, 17 mod 3 = 2,
5 mod 3 = 2, 7 mod 3 = 1, 11 mod 3 = 2, 13 mod 3 =
19 mod 3 = 1, 23 mod 3 = 2, 29 mod 3 = 2, 31 mod 3= 1, 37 mod 3 = 1,
41 mod 3 = 2, 43 mod 3 = 1, 47 mod 3 = 2, 53 mod 3= 2, 59 mod 3 = 2,
61 mod 3 = 1, 67 mod 3 = 1, 71 mod 3 = 2, 73 mod 3= 1, 79 mod 3 = 1,
83 mod 3 = 2, 89 mod 3 = 2, 97 mod 3 = 12, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1
So the sequence is
2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1,
coin, but better as
and I suggest to you it is random, like flipping a
it is absolutely random.
A sequence is random if there is
no way to predict the next element with a probability
greater
than chance.
Prediction rule.
If the current element is a 1 the next element
ment will be 2
If the current element is a 2 the next element
ment will be 1
This succeeeds with a probability greater than
chance.
The sequence is not random.
(Note that it is enough to give a prediction rule
that works.
It is not necessary to explain why it works)
- William Hughes
Yes, however assuming JSH meant pseudorandomness or randomness as in the digits of a number like pi() or any other normal number, he still has an interesting idea.
Unfortunately JSH has (as usual) only ideas and zero results.
Therefore i redirected him to "The One".
john
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