Re: JSH: Contradictory behavior, issue of math fraud

On Sep 1, 3:47 pm, José Carlos Santos <jcsan...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 01-09-2007 19:02, JSH wrote:



So I went to the factoring problem.
And never solved it.
Maybe not, but what is your proof?
I gave a proof in another post, but my newsreader seems to have fallen
apart in the last ten minutes, so it might not exist.

Select k=9, n=0 for T = 23457634568903458768912756896234625612456734523.
The largest factor your method will find is 1. That violates no
constraint of your method. Therefore your method as stated doesn't work.

If as I say mathematicians routinely lie about math, and I do come up
with a viable factoring approach then it stands to reason that they
would CONTINUE to lie, but other people might use the research anyway.
That is irrelevant, since you will never come up with a viable factoring
approach faster than the known ones.
And you have a crystal ball?
No, but your past antics indicate that you do not have sufficient
mathematical ability beyond anyone else working on the problem. I can
say P = NP, and give some rationale, but I can never *prove* it because
I do not have the sufficient mathematical abilities.

If my retirement dollars depend on the answer, what are you giving me
so that I can feel safe?
A naive Bayesian classifier trained on your previous performance as data
says you won't.

But then again, I might simply be unable to come up with a viable
approach to the factoring problem.
You *will* be unable to come up with a viable approach to the factoring
problem faster than the known ones.
And if I do, will you personally vouch for the money lost for those
who lose their savings?
*Who* will lose their savings? Almost all serious cryptography has
passed up factoring and started using stuff like elliptic-curve. Many of
the "secure" algorithms most people use have been shown to be breakable,
but we still use them. Best examples: RC4 and MD5.

Fine. So Santos can pledge his entire life savings, every penny he
owns to anyone who might lose money if he and you are wrong.

Based on your analysis he is perfectly safe, right?

So he should do the pledge, and anyone else of you I ask should do it
as well.

I want a pledge of every dime you have, so that you put enough out
there that people can know where you stand, without question.

And what would be *your* pledge here? So that people can know where you
stand, without question.

What about a pledge of every dime you have in the case you have not
factored any of the RSA challenge numbers until August the 31st 2008?


No. I pledge nothing.

Best regards,

Jose Carlos Santos


Fine Jose Carlos Santos. Refuse to put your money up for something
you claim is not a threat to anyone else.

But do you really think you can keep people from just taking it if you
are wrong?

Do you believe you have that power? If the world comes and says, pay
up, how can you stop them?

I don't need you to show responsibility to make my point, and I really
like what I said in a previous post about con artists only caring
about money.

It makes them predictable.

How can anyone not wonder that maybe you will not take that pledge to
protect the only thing you actually care about?

Why really do you reply as you do to me? If not to convince others,
then why?

Now then, let's try again.

What makes you so certain there is nothing to surrogate factoring?


James Harris

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