Re: JSH: Contradictory behavior, issue of math fraud

On Sep 1, 1:44 pm, JSH <jst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 1, 10:37 am, José Carlos Santos <jcsan...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 01-09-2007 18:26, JSH wrote:

So I went to the factoring problem.

And never solved it.

Maybe not, but what is your proof?

Be reasonable. Suppose we replaced "rapid factoring" with "a cure for
cancer"
or "spinning straw into gold". You say you have succeeded in one of
these tasks, but
your explanation isn't convincing to experts. You reply by saying
that the experts
are corrupt and are not giving your ideas a fair chance. The solution
is easy:
demonstrate to the world that your ideas actually work. If you can go
into a room filled only with straw, lock the door, and an hour later
open the door to reveal
wall-to-wall gold bricks, you will get suitable attention for your
achievements.

If you have a rapid (i.e., polynomial time) factorization method, you
need not convince
the mathematical community in the correctness of your algorithm. All
you need to do
is factor one or more of the RSA challenge numbers that have been
provided especially for this purpose. If you had a polynomial time
algorithm (and access to reasonable
resources, like a desktop computer) you could meet these challenges.
If you have not
done so, you don't have to be a "corrupt mathematician" to think that
you do not at present have such an algorithm.

Maybe what you are saying is that you have some ideas which may lead
to the development
of such an algorithm. That's great, and I think the posters who have
said that you
cannot possibly have such an idea because you are not mathematically
intelligent enough
are out of line -- anyone _could_ solve any mathematical problem. But
of course it is
up to you to develop your ideas and not up to others to "guarantee"
that your ideas
don't work.

Why would I bother if I think the math world is corrupt?

I am sorry that you think this is the case.

What might I do instead?

If as I say mathematicians routinely lie about math, and I do come up
with a viable factoring approach then it stands to reason that they
would CONTINUE to lie, but other people might use the research anyway.

That is irrelevant, since you will never come up with a viable factoring
approach faster than the known ones.

And you have a crystal ball?

I agree -- who is to say what you might be able to do in the future?

Where is the mathematical analysis?

Again, it is not up to us to prove your ideas do not go anywhere. If
you reflect
for a second, you will probably agree that one can generate ideas that
might or might
not work much faster than one can prove that an idea does or doesn't
work. No one's
money, or possessions, or even their own life is provably safe from
every conceivable attack.


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