Re: JSH: Really weird story, not your faults

JSH wrote:
On Sep 14, 2:44 pm, David Bernier <david...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
JSH wrote:
Sometimes I think that there are people who really, really, really
want me to post factorizations of RSA Challenge numbers--which I have
not yet achieved--and collapse confidence overnight in the current
system, but why?
You don't need to go that far. Sci.math posters can provide you with
140-digit composites
with two prime factors. Your mission is to find the last digit of both
primes, and post those
two digits.

If someone says that you factored one of these 140-digit numbers, you
can later say
that you didn't; you could say that you were lucky in guessing correctly the
last two digits of the prime factors. What do you think?

David Bernier

Then what?

I had a paper published. Didn't matter. I can step through point by
point how my prime counting function differs from what was previously
known in the area. Doesn't matter.

This story goes two ways, either the world notices this new way to
factor before the research matures, or it finds out the hard way AFTER
it matures.

You seem to imply that there surely is a "hard way" for the world to find out
about the new way to factor, after the research has matured.

Ed Witten is quoted as follows in Matthew Chalmers' article
in _Physics World_, September 2007:

“I feel that nature must intend for us to study
string theory because I just can’t believe that humans
stumbled across something so rich by accident,” .

and:

“One of the greatest worries we face is that the
theory may turn out to be too difficult to understand.”

So even Witten is prudent as to how string theory will
evolve as it matures.

see:
"Stringscape" by Matthew Chalwers here:
< http://download.iop.org/pw/PWSep07strings.pdf >

David Bernier

And remember, I'm not the only person who can do research on this
idea.

Anyone in the world who hears of it can.

Now the only other position is to say that this factoring research
will never turn out to be as powerful as existing methods, but that is
as insane as publication not mattering, and facts differing my prime
counting function from previously known research not mattering.

The key conclusion I have is that mathematicians have decided as an
absolute to reject any research that I produce, so any evidence will
be ignored, if it can be.

That conclusion then requires factoring an RSA number and maybe even
multiple ones, and posting the solution. My analysis indicates that
mathematicians would try to deny the result still for a while,
possibly claiming cheating or luck and would wait to see if the world
reacted.

If it did not, they'd do nothing further.

And sci.math posters would claim it doesn't matter.

That may sound impossible but it is my analysis.

You might post in favor of my research and then be drowned out by
posters claiming it is junk, as has happened before.

And then you'd stop posting support, as have people before.

And nothing would happen until exploits forced the world to
acknowledge the reality of the situation.


James Harris

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