Re: Implementable Set Theory and Consistency of ZFC



MoeBlee wrote:

On Oct 12, 12:56 pm, Han.deBru...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On 12 okt, 21:32, MoeBlee <jazzm...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 12, 12:09 pm, Han.deBru...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On 12 okt, 04:44, "Peter Webb" <webbfam...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

So your actual claim is somewhat stronger, that ZF is inconsistent?

Apparently, yes. Because ZF contains Infinity.

Wrong. ZF has the axiom of infinity, but, by Godel's consistency
result, the claim that ZF is inconsistent is no stronger a claim than
that ZFC is inconsistent.

Who is wrong here? The guy who said that ZF is
somewhat stronger than ZFC

Did anyone say tht ZF is stronger than ZFC? Obviously, ZF is not
stronger than ZFC.

or the guy who said
that ZF is inconsistent as well?

"as well" as what? As to whether ZF is inconsistent, we havent' seen a
proof that it is.

If my proof that ZFC is inconsistent is valid (I said: if) then it's
also true that ZF is inconsistent. And some guy named that a stronger
result.

Han de Bruijn

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