Re: Implementable Set Theory and Consistency of ZFC
- From: "Jesse F. Hughes" <jesse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:54:02 -0400
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBruijn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
lwalke3@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Notice that if T is a theory and phi is any
axiom, then if M is a model of T+phi, then
M is a model of T. In other words, any model
of a theory is a model of any subtheory.
ZF-Infinity is a subtheory of ZF, since the
former is a subset of the latter. And so any
model of ZF is a model of ZF-Infinity.
Yes. And a "model" of (ZF-Infinity) is not per se a model of ZFC, which
is the very difference between an "if" and an "iff".
Everyone else seems to know the difference between "if" and "iff".
But you wrote the following:
It's impossible to have infinity without Infinity. If not, show us
such a model, please.
What on earth did you mean, if not: Show us a model of ZF - Infinity
with infinite sets in the model?
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