Re: A Possible (or not) Proof for the Eudoxius' Theorem - Number Theory - Help
- From: Gerry Myerson <gerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:04:02 GMT
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"cezar.schroeder" <cezar.schroeder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi! The Eudoxius' Theorem is essencial to correctly understand the
proof of the existence and uniqueness of the remainder and the
quotient of division, everybody knows it. But I'm reading a book that
mentions this theorem, but does not present a proof for it. So I
searched on the Internet a proof for this theorem, but I did not find
it. So I tried to write a proof by myself. But I'm still a student,
not a professor, so I ask you all to help me with this task, saying
where I'm wrong and suggesting some improvements or corrections. I
really want to thank you. Below is the theorem and its possible proof
that I wrote. And if someone has a more elegant proof for this
theorem, please say it to me. Thanks.
Eudoxius' Theorem: Given a and b integers with b != (different) 0 then
a is a multiple of b or is between two consecutive multiples of b, it
means, for each integers pair a and b, with b != 0, there is another
integer q such as, for b > 0,
q*b <= a < (q + 1)*b
and for b < 0,
q*b <= a < (q - 1)*b
I'm sorry, I can't follow your proof in detail, but the way it's usually
done is by invoking well-ordering. Let S be the intersection of the set
of all numbers of the form a - s b, s running through the integers,
with the non-negative integers. By well-ordering, S has a least element,
call that element r, so r = a - q b for some q. It follows (in the b > 0
case) that a - (q + 1) b < 0, and you're pretty much done.
Proof: Given a and b satisfying the hypotheses of the theorem, or b|a
(b divides a) or b does not divide a. In case that b divides a we know
that a is a multiple of b, in the other side, in case that b does not
divide a, we know that a is not a multiple of b. So we divide the
proof in two cases, one case considering that a is multiple of b, and
in another case considering that a is not a multiple of b.
(1) a is multiple of b. (b divides a)
It means that b|a and that a = q*b, for some q. It demonstrates the
first case of the theorem.
(2) a is not a multiple of b. (b does not divide a)
If b does not divide a, then we have that a < k*b, it means, a must be
minor than one multiple of b, for some k. And more, q*b < a, it means,
a must must be greater than one multiple of b for some q, with k and q
integers. Then we have that a is between two multiples of b. It's
possible to say this because the set of integers has some properties
that guarantees it. So we have,
q*b < a < k*b
What we have to prove now is that k = q + 1 for b > 0, and k = q - 1
for b < 0. In other words, we need to show that a is between two
consecutive multiples of b. We'll prove for the case b > 0, but the
case b < 0 is on the same way. Let, by contradiction, k != 0. Then k >
q + 1. We know that q*b < a < k*b, it means that a can assume any
values in this interval, so we have that a can be equal to (q + 1)*b
and then a = (q + 1)*b means that a can be a multiple of b, wich
contradicts the hypothesis of the part (2) of the proof of this
theorem. Then, k must be equal to (q + 1) and then q*b < a < (q +
1)*b.
Gathering parts (1) and (2) of our proof, we have the final result of
the theorem,
q*b <= a < (q + 1)*b, for b > 0.
As we said, the proof of this theorem for the case b < 0 is very
similar to this one presented. The only thing you have to do is let,
by contradiction that k != q - 1, it means that k > q - 1, and you'll
have,
q*b <= a < (q - 1)*b.
It completes the proof. [ ]
I have the sensation at this moment that I'm considering the result of
the theorem to prove the result of the theorem, but I'm not sure about
it. I'm still a student, and a not smart one. That's why I'm asking
you all to help me on this task. Thanks a lot.
--
Gerry Myerson (gerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (i -> u for email)
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