Re: WHY HAS THIS SITE BECOME SUCH A SPAM TARGET???

On Mar 10, 8:01 am, amzoti <amz...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The Borg has gotten too large and doesn't give a $*&^!

Not true. Google is mostly composed of and run by
CS and math nerds. They don't feel any differently about
spam than anyone here.


They also caused the problem

Google doesn't cause spam on usenet or anywhere else. Usenet
spam existed as a horrific problem before Google existed. This
make-money-fast usenet post is about twice as old as Google is:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.jobs.misc/msg/94897b5dbf17adbe

Spam is caused by spammers.


by allowing spammers to easily automate the spam postings!

Spammers use every automated means at their disposal, legal
or not. Botnets sending SMTP floods. Web forum spam. Domain
typo spam. Vast networks of websites that exist exclusively to
influence search engines. Sometimes they just try extortion directly.
Contact a company and threaten to DDoS them off the face of the
earth unless they pay a million dollars into Ukraine somewhere.
I am not making this up.

The spammers and the popular internet destinations (not just
Google, but Yahoo, eBay, Amazon, etc.) are in an arms race.
All those companies are investing significant amounts of hardware,
talent, and capital to try to deal with the problem. It may not
appear so on a day when one sees a crapflood, but what you see
doesn't tell you anything about what you don't see: all the stuff
that *did* get blocked. What is the mean-time-to-compromised
of a new machine, of whatever stripe (linux, etc.) put directly
on the internet? Something like two minutes? I once spoke with
the then-chair of the IRTF about this; he described being on
the internet as "swimming in a vast sea of malice."


I actually think they like the spam cause they use the number of posts
to charge for directed ads.

Google does not like spam. Spam does not bring Google ad revenue.


Die spammers - die!

On this point, we are in agreement.


Marshall
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