Re: WHY HAS THIS SITE BECOME SUCH A SPAM TARGET???

On Mar 20, 2:24 pm, "Ross A. Finlayson" <r...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:55 pm, charlesrkiss <charles.k...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Google needs to step up their quality and fix this bull***, or get
out of the groups business!

Get out of the *what*?

--
Jesse F. Hughes

They need to get out of the business pretending that having an open
server with some BBS, under the pretense it is scientific or
mathematical, has more value than just having an open server with some
BS.

Charles

The spam is pretty bad there, and, it's coming through Google groups,
and, they should do something about that.

I look at the "Google profiles" of the various accounts posting the
spams. They post to usenet groups, AND, Google's private groups. So,
the spammers are some kind of Google phenomenon, and, they've ruined a
variety of the groups on Google, besides just infesting usenet groups.

http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Groups-Guide

That appears to be the Google group about Google groups.

Here I shall write them a letter.

"How is Google reining in spammers through Google Groups? (Something
is Broken)

There are some big problems with spam originating from Google groups
members going out to USENET. The past month or two has seen spam on
USENET that there hasn't been for many years if ever, and, 99% of it
is coming through googlegroups.com. As well, these spam posters are
spamming through Google individual Google groups as well.

These posts are spam, they are totally off-topic and posted all over
the place, basically porn, knockoff goods, and various assorted
garbage.

What's Google doing to solve this problem by restricting posts through
Google groups to usenet to prevent these spams going out? How can
there be a particular notification method to Google of these blatant
spammers, so that Google's reputation is not further damaged and the
healing process of un-spamming usenet can begin?"

I appreciate the notion of marking spam posts as spam, but it doesn't
eliminate them, kind of like pancake over plague sores.

Math Forum seems to be doing a pretty good job of cutting out the
spams. While that may be so, their interface is terrible to use, in
terms of web to usenet gateways.

It seems that these automated spammers through Google Groups are the
problem. Google, listen, as a responsible net citizen Google Groups
shouldn't be allowing these spams through to usenet.



http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Groups-Basics/browse_thread/thread/4317974bb048e256/6fc85131a08fb722?lnk=gst&q=spam+googlegroups#6fc85131a08fb722

That seems to indicate the Google is trying to cope with the matter
and solve this problem, which is probably caused by only a handful of
miscreants.

Consider http://groups.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse_legal_iss&hl=en
, a possible method of at least notification to Google of these
spammers. It seems reasonable that for each Message-ID of spam via
googlegroups.com, they should get sent into this form here, in a more
or less automated manner, where, all the headers of the post can be
included in the description, so that at least for posts to sic.math,
these spams from googlegroups, that maybe there can be handled them in
a more or less automated manner on the googlegroups side, in
suspending and canceling these bogus accounts.

Google seems to want to hear about these spams, it's possible that by
actually sending each of the spams from googlegroups back through the
abuse interface, that it would be easier or more mechanical, at least,
to remove the offending spam from the google groups, and hopefully as
well encourage them to send out cancel control messages for those
spams which do escape their domain to usenet proper.

So, what do people think about proactively sending Google the spam
identifiers, in a more or less automated manner, towards, getting
Google to stop forwarding these posts? It would help if it was known
beforehand that the receive side of the abuse interface could handle
automated posts up to the volume of spams coming from
googlegroups.com, thus that it wouldn't simply flood their response
mechanisms. It seems that if, for each spam to sci.math, sci.logic,
etcetera from googlegroups, that was filed through Google's preferred
notification method for these misuses, that would make it easy for
Google to facilitate canceling out the spams.

Ross

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