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On May 19, 2:32 pm, Michael Press <rub...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<d0441a98-2382-4c60-a8f6-55f685759...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
galathaea <galath...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 18, 6:13 pm, Michael Press <rub...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<81afc1b4-e245-4762-9e41-5d08db3b1...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
galathaea <galath...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 18, 1:00 pm, bill <b92...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If you really want an answer, it will have to be via e-mail. This may
minimize the number of "this is gibberish" or "you are stupid"
responses.

as one learns math
there are many strange and unexpected concepts
one needs to wrap their heads around

along the way
there will be those who have already done that work
(the overlap of generations and all that)
and some of them may attack your ignorance

do not close yourself up to learning because of them

it is common to get defensive
(i mean, they're being dicks right?)

Wrong.

are you saying it is wrong that they get defensive?

Wrong that `they' are being dicks.
But you knew that.

okay

*** it

i'll be blunt and burn all bridges
since that is what you so desperately want

you are being a *** right now

the guy
(was it gerry myerson?
i forget since it wasn't important to me)
who told bill his post
(what was it about?)
was gibberish
was being a ***

despite all the handwringing later about
how it wasn't meant to be dickish
but a valid critique
still
it was not gibberish
it had words with well-known meanings
used in ways that one familiar with the words
could understand as an attempt to make sense
of some mathematical properties

arturo magidin
(gasp!)
is being a *** on some other thread
to some guy posting beyond arturo's anal retentive column limit

i think phil carmody helped out there
but wasn't quite a ***
but i'll toss him in here just to burn more down

david ullrich is the big spacing *** on the group these days
apparently because his sight problems
cause him to be annoyed at people posting

whoever the hell told bill he should stop posting
(was that ullrich again?)
well that was the worst kind of nazi *** i've smelled in years

everyone has their own filter they control
but when they take it upon themselves to be other's filters
they have attempted one of the most ominous of controls

and yes
bill was certainly a *** when he was asked to clarify
and failed to
instead falling to teasing and handwaving

most everyone has apparently grown their own language nazi
eye-twitch annoyance triggers lately
which after years of building frustration
has finally blown past the social filters
and ended with some demeaning little response
detailing the stupidity seen in the unfortunate poster

i don't think there's one regular poster on this newsgroup
that hasn't been a *** at one point
but even if not
i'll lay the claim out there

why the *** not?

i'm being a *** to you right now
though *** or bitch might be more appropriate terms

but much of the *** they throw will grow
the more one digs in on their own ideas

don't stop being inquisitive about what these things mean
but if you acknowledge when someone makes a good point
i think you will begin to separate
those who were merely trying to pound in some new knowledge
from those who generally are just dicks

OK. Time to name names and document your claims.

are you saying that ther is not a distinction
where some posts are more intended to help
and some are intended to harm?

Am I?
Certainly I now tell you to directly address transgressions
exactly when they occur and to the person you consider
to be transgressing. That could be helpful; but do not
expect that you will always be correct.

do you think that just because terrorists torture
that is the appropriate response of so-called civilised governments?

sure that's full of hyperbole
(despite being sadly a serious question for our times)
and sure it does not help that i bring this comparison up
and sure it can be picked apart to death
but
do you see how this works?

if i started pointing out every flaw i see around me
i would have no time to pursue anything else

i am obsessive enough

already
the world to me is a trillion navajo rugs
each facet flawed in its contingent way

but why the hell would i spend my days like that?
and who the hell are you
telling me how i must spend my days?
and how i must post?

why should i post every error i see
directly when i see it
just to expose myself to even more animosity?
and
as you so valiantly caution
expose myself to the error that is generated from immediate rebuke?

have you seen my emailbox?

the quantity of hatemail i receive is large enough
that i don't need assistance here

and which "flaws" should i expose?

like others
should i expose things i find flawed
simply because they do no match my aspergers obsessions?

should things be 2d equations properly aligned fixed font
or 1d dense and obfuscatory tex-like substitute?
can someone use embedded MIME like it was intended?
or is neobabelopolis not ready?
capitalisation? too much? too little?
line breaks?
should the title include appropriate dashes?

what about "his"?
WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO USE THE PRONOUN "HIS"
FOR ALL THEIR REFERENCES TO MATHEMATICIANS??

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maybe i should cross post this to sci.physics and sci.crypt
you know
raise the bar a little on the level of conversation...

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