Re: why does professor david c ullrich have to put people down to feel good about himself?
- From: galathaea <galathaea@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:59:37 -0800 (PST)
On Dec 4, 1:26 pm, MoeBlee <jazzm...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 4, 10:36 am, lwal...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
without breaking
the bank.
And this 'breaking the bank' business is silliness. Right now, in the
U.S. one can get a copy of Suppes's 'Axiomatic Set Theory' online for
$8.78, tax and shipping included. And it might even be cheaper in
certain places in Europe, though I don't know what the shipping would
be in other parts of the world.
If I say to a poster, "You need to get a good textbook on this
subject", then that's not asking to "break the bank".
when i got out of high school
i had some fairly good scholarships to the local universities
unfortunately
they wouldn't give them to me
as i couldn't provide my stepfather's income tax returns
and they wouldn't accept the fact that i had a restraining order
or the police reports which had prompted it
(which i presented with all necessary public seals)
as proof i was independent of him
so after a year of college (unr)
i had to drop out
having gone completely through
everything i had saved
i got a job at a local factory
packing rolls of barcode labels for various industrial purposes
with the US $6.50 an hour pretax i made
i was just able to rent an apartment with a friend
and purchase groceries
everything else i may have wanted
cut into the grocery money
for a time
i ate only ramen
the cheapest item i could get in bulk
but even just that was barely within my means
i did make the sacrifices necessary to continue learning
mostly purchasing dover and the like
and finding the best used book stores near the local university
(which didn't at the time allow community borrowers)
and i went without food
sometimes for a few days at a time
my mom thought i was anorexic
eventually
i worked my way up to actually printing the labels
and eventually
five years after dropping out of school
became qa lead and moved to the night shift
this allowed me to go to school again
but my work refused any compensation from their school program
and the new university (unlv) similarly refused independence
so i had to take small courseloads
and check the books out from the library
i had no car
i had to walk to the store and carry the groceries home
i worked 48+ hours a week
just to manage this
i know what sacrifices sometimes need to be made
and i know that my position in the world
was what made even that possible
if i was in mexico
or india
or china
or anywhere in africa
or ...
it would not have been possible
so when i see people say they cannot afford books
i know that it is not an exaggeration for many
it's not just slouched shoulder resignation
or lax lifestyle
or anything that might sound "silly" to others
mike3 regularly posts about his difficulties
i know he is an earnest learner
and i don't doubt his difficulties are silly
now that i make many times what i did then
and have my own house and car and all that
i know that some lifestyles are much easier than others
and it can be easy for some people to afford
quite a number of books each month
to fuel a thirst for knowledge
but it's ludicrous to think that money problems are silly
it's a sign of a certain position in society
that many never get to share
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galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar
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