Re: Understanding the quotient ring nomenclature



Arturo Magidin <magidin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Tim BandTech.com" <tttppp...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotient_ring#Examples
"Now consider the ring R[X] of polynomials in the variable X with
real coefficients, and the ideal I = (X^2 + 1) consisting of all
multiples of the polynomial X^2 + 1." Here they have neither
specified what R[X] is nor what X is.

Yes, they have: R[X] is the ring of polynomials in the variable X with
real coefficients. Those words have *precise*, specific meanings. That
means that they have in fact *completely specified* what R[X] and X are.

Part of the problem here is that "variable" is an overloaded term.
We're stuck with it for historical reasons. In this context X can
denote any indeterminate, i.e. any element of some ring containing
R that is transcendental (not algebraic) over R. It is better to
avoid this confusion by defining polynomials by their coefficient
sequences, i.e. they are functions N -> R with finite support that
are added pointwise and multiplied by Cauchy product (convolution).
Then X = (0,1,0,0,0...), and X^n is the sequence having 1 in the
n'th place and 0 elsewhere; r = (r,0,0,0...) for constants r in R.
Now the question "what is X?" has a clear and rigorous answer.

When learning about these ring constructions it is essential to
understand that it is not the particular construction that matters
but rather the essential properties, i.e. one should view the objects
as solutions to a universal mapping problem. This yields tremendous
power, e.g. see some of my prior posts [1] on universal techniques.

--Bill Dubuque

[1] http://google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Adubuque+universal+polynomial
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Possible flaw in the polynomial ring A[X] construction
    ... distinguish it from the product of polynomial functions. ... for rings of finite characteristic, so let us consider the base ring to ... the ring of polynomials over this field is ... with the base ring being the field of two elements. ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: Possible flaw in the polynomial ring A[X] construction
    ... with further operations such as a quotient ring. ... then the ring Aof polynomials with real coefficients, ... than just heaping piles of construction upon other piles of ... "While the polynomial itself is necessarily infinite in length, ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: Understanding the quotient ring nomenclature
    ... A ring is defined as containing elements. ... undefined domain and an infinite length of terms. ... infinite series are reals. ... long as the two polynomials being multiplied have finitely many terms, ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: Confirmed flaw in the polynomial ring A[X] construction
    ... different ring*. ... all the polynomials would get ... does not address the polynomial with real coefficients and the effect ... usage or construction composed with y. ...
    (sci.math)
  • Re: Possible flaw in the polynomial ring A[X] construction
    ... Because in an arbitrary ring, with elements a_i, the sum ... And in the reals it is also not defined only by the addition ... of the formalisms can be recovered from the ring definition. ... The ring of polynomials is a subring of that ring. ...
    (sci.math)

Quantcast