Re: JSH: Psychology of the denial of "core error"

On Jul 5, 12:13 am, Bacle <ba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 4, 7:56 pm, "Achava Nakhash, the Loving Snake"
<ach...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
James,

I realize that this is an exercise in futility, but
I am going to try
to demonstrate to you why the mathematical
community does not take
anything you say seriously.  Many of us do,
however, find you

I've read your reply and it fits more with the
psychological aspects
of this issue.

Readers who are puzzled by his reply need to
understand how
devastating the core error is.

  You mean that you decided to spend 15 years of your
 life in something without getting any useful return?.
  I would be devastated too.

Sounds like you think a "useful return" is acceptance and accolades?

Maybe money? As well?

Other readers, see where I'm going here?

These people are NOT mathematicians. They want money and power.

To them, without those things there is no success!

He may actually believe he has cogent rebuttals, but
he also may be
faking in case later he believes he needs to say his
mind snapped in
his own defense.

  You, OTOH can just say that you're stupid in your
 own defense. Everyone will believe you.

For someone who makes a living doing mathematics if later there is a
question about whether or not they were perpetuating a fraud the
answer can mean their livelihood.

For you this may be just a game, but for some of these people it could
mean losing their jobs, and having to start their careers over
completely, possibly with a fraud conviction hanging over them.

Certain entities like the US Government do take academic fraud
seriously. The repercussions could be quite significant.

An insanity defense in the face of prosecution might seem like an
option to some.


marvelously entertaining.  As I remarked several
times already, you
write very well, and you spin an absorbing, if
silly, science fiction
conspiracy involving mathematicians and, in
particular, number
theorists.  Never before have we been considered so
powerful.  We
certainly don't feel that way.

I will intersperse my specific comments withing
your text, where
appropriate, to try to show you how mathematicians
view the
mathematics of what you do.  I and others have done
this before to
little effect, but I happen to be in the mood.
 Beethoven's fifth is
playing in my speakers, so I guess I just feel
empowered or something.

On Jul 4, 6:41 pm, JSH <jst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Turns out that if you follow rigorous mathematics
it is trivial to
show a problem with the use of the ring of
algebraic integers with a
quadratic factorization that I've often given
before:

7(175x^2 - 15x + 2) = (5a_1(x) + 7)(5a_2(x)+ 7)

where the a's are roots of

a^2 - (7x-1)a + (49x^2 - 14x) = 0.

This appears to be a monic polynomial of degree 2
with coefficients
in Z[x].  As such, its roots would be in some sort
of integral
extension (this is a technical term you may look
up) of Z[x] living
within a field that is an extension of degree 2
over Z(x).  It is not
an algebraic integer.  I am unfamiliar with the
factorization

That is false.  Given an algebraic integer x the
roots of

 a^2 - (7x-1)a + (49x^2 - 14x) = 0

are always algebraic integers.

  Convince me. It is not even clear if you intend

It's math. It's not about what you personally believe!!!

Those who wonder how YEARS can go by with stupid arguments about basic
math need only look at that request to understand the Hell these
people have put me through, as they keep asking to be convinced of
basic mathematics, over and over and over and over and over and over
and over again.

It is a deliberate frustration strategy in my opinion as they are con
artists. Remember this guys lust for money and power revealed in his
notions of success above to which I replied.

To such a person, truth is just a word. Success is getting something
from people and his demand is for me to convince HIM, as if
mathematical correctness is just such trash.

For such a person, public opinion is all that matters as THAT is how
you get money and power.

 7x-1 to be taken as a polynomial, or if it will
 assume numerical values. I think Achava was assuming

That's not a mathematical statement. Seems to be something you just
made up.

a^2 - (7x-1)a + (49x^2 - 14x) = 0

IS in the ring of algebraic integers if that is the declared ring.

The error by the earlier poster in claiming it is not is not fixed by
your support!!!

People like you seem insistent in a democratic process against
mathematics.

 the first case. Then he was right. So you should

He was wrong. And you are wrong in reply.

It doesn't matter how many people like you reply claiming he was
right. He was wrong.

 specify which one you are working with.
    This shows you lack basic understanding. I am
  not by any means a number theorist and I can see
  how this could be confusing. This shows you are

a^2 - (7x-1)a + (49x^2 - 14x) = 0

If you say ring of algebraic integers there is NO PROBLEM with that
expression.

And there is NO PROBLEM with the rest either:

7(175x^2 - 15x + 2) = (5a_1(x) + 7)(5a_2(x)+ 7)

where the a's are roots of

a^2 - (7x-1)a + (49x^2 - 14x) = 0.

  not too sharp nor knowledgeable.
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That insistence on insults is so telling, and it is amazing how
solidly people who rely on insults sit on the sci.math newsgroup.

Year after year after year I've refuted people on basic mathematical
points, and they will just repeat the error year after year after year
and rely on the group opinion.

But you're doing fake math!!!

You're STILL wasting your lives and energy. So what? You can squeak
out a few years with the world unaware?

YOUR LIFE WAS WASTED ON FAKE WORK regardless.

Your life was wasted on fake work.

Your people lie about mathematics. When error is revealed you simply
repeat the error and gang up against the mathematics that shows your
error--and then you lie about what you are doing.

I think some of you have some weird fantasy that you can break the
entire human race, get over some hump, and have the mathematical
errors so entrenched in human belief that NO one can ever break it
out--and then you think you win?

By betraying the human race.

Your win is the betrayal of the human race, the human species.

You are anti-people.


James Harris
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