Re: American health care best? No...Most expensive? Yes...Ranked 12th
From: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (andrew_at_heartmdphd.com)
Date: 07/06/04
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:47:49 -0400
Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com wrote:
>
> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message news:<40E92E14.1C8E@heartmdphd.com>...
>
> > > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message news:<40E698A8.3554@heartmdphd.com>...
>
> >In truth, without Christ, there would be no Santa Claus.
>
> COMMENT:
>
> Yeah, Santa's sort of Jesus-lite, all right. But there are a lot of
> religions with spirits who provide things after appropriate
> exhortations. In Voodoo it takes chicken blood. The whole idea is
> power and control of things.
>
> Harris
It sounds like you had a disappointing childhood, Dr. Harris.
> >> The problem with Christ is that he's just basically Santa for
> adults.
> >> By rumor, he's making a list and checking it twice, gunna find out
> >> who's naughty and nice, and one day he's coming to town. `Cept
> until
> >> then he's awfully scarce, you notice?
>
> Chung
> >Not for those who have been walking with Him.
>
> COMMENT: Oh, I didn't say you couldn't pretend! You can say you're
> accompanied all the time by a 10 foot tall invisible rabbit named
> Harvey, for all I care. The difficulty is getting anybody else to see
> him.
Yes, I am a mere servant.
> You see, there are all kinds of religions and many of them don't
> accept Jesus as god. And the ones that do, can't even agree on what
> Jesus is suggesting is the best thing to do. Like join the Mormons or
> the Roman Catholics, or whatever. Which is a mighty peculiar situation
> if there's an objective personage there which everybody's seeing. At
> minimum AT LEAST most of the people getting messages from "Jesus" are
> self-deluded, simply because the messages are in direct conflict. I'm
> suggesting that they ALL are self-deluded, which is the simplest
> explanation of all. I don't see Jesus. Do YOU see Jesus, Dr. Chung?
Not with my eyes but with my heart.
> What's he look like?
He is love.
> Harris
> >> Has an unlisted phone number and
> >> email and even mail (hell, Santa can be reached at North Pole,
> >>Alaska, not far from Fairbanks-- I've been there and he seemed nice
> >>enough).
>
> Chung
> >Why would you need a phone number (email address or postal address
> for
> >that matter) to reach someone who is walking right beside you?
>
> COMMMENT:
> Uh, to get an answer back, obviously. But since it's not working for
> me, let's see how it works for you.
>
> How do YOU know Jesus is walking "right beside me?"
I feel Him beside me.
> Can you see him?
I see the Father all around me.
> What's he look like?
Everything.
> If you can't see him, but can only hear him, ask
> him please about the Mormons, for "Stormin' Mormon" Young's sake. I
> wanna know what your Personal Jesus says about the Mormons. Is that
> so hard?
No.
> You say one doesn't need email. Great. So ask. You can just
> use email to pass the message on to the rest of us, okay? Jesus can
> watch over your shoulder, whilst you type.
What is your question?
> Chung:
> >>It seems that you are blind, Dr. Harris.
> >>May God open your eyes so that you can see Him all around you, in
> >>Christ's name.
>
> COMMENT:
> Oh, ho, you accusing me of being blind?
Not an accusation but an observation.
> That old trick of the
> religious shaman. Them's fighting words and they demands some
> evidence. I accuse you in turn of seeing things that aren't there.
Blind people do that.
> I'm blind, you say?
So it would seem.
> Well, then, how about you be my "eyes" and "ears"?
> Ask your personal Jesus about the Mormons, and put the answer right
> here.
I would be glad to.
What is your question?
> In real life, people blind from birth don't need any convincing that
> others have a special sense they lack (Let's ignore that facetious HG
> Wells short story). But there seems to be real problem with this
> Jesus. All those people in the middle east can't see him, neither Jew
> nor Muslim. Could it be sandstorms, do you think?
Could be the same disease that you seem to have.
> Harris
> > Like the Loch Ness
> > Monster, Bigfoot, and those little gray aliens with bug eyes, the
> > living Jesus is never around when you really need him to show up to
> > settle an argument.
>
> Chung
> >I do not show up to settle arguments. So by your logic, I don't
> exist
> >either.
>
> Comment
> Oh, you show up here for arguments, as you obviously are doing right
> now.
For now, but there will be a time when I won't.
> I don't see Jesus here. And I can make you show up physically, at
> will, so I don't really care if you're not here in person. All I have
> to do is file some civil action against you out there in Georgia, and
> at some point, I guarantee you'll show up in person.
Not if God wills otherwise.
> So your online
> credentials and your email messages stand in for you, in the meantime.
God's Word is infinitely better than all these.
> But as for Jesus, forget it.
>
> Harris
> >That's really fishy. If he'd just hold a telephone [press conference]
> >ike Howard Hughes once did, or better yet video, he could do a lot of
> >scotch those rumors that he's actually been dead for some time. And
> if
> >Jesus is still alive, I'll bet he looks better than Hughes, and isn't
> >addicted to codeine, so it could be fun. We could bring in Dan
> Rather,
> >some loaves and fishes, and have a better audience percentage than
> the
> >last superbowl.
>
> Chung
> >Is that what you require in order to accept Christ as your personal
> >Lord and Savior?
>
> COMMENT:
>
> No, actually, that's would be just the beginning. Are you kidding? Any
> schmuck can call himself a god or a prophet. Proving it is the hard
> part.
>
> SBH
The proof is all around you.
May God open your eyes so you can see Him.
You remain in my prayers in Christ's name, neighbor.
May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the infinite riches of His
everlasting kingdom.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
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