Re: Chung has died and returned with proof WAS:Re: The BullshitParade
From: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (andrew_at_heartmdphd.com)
Date: 08/14/04
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:59:09 -0400
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Bob (this one) wrote:
> >
> >> Steve Marcus wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Bob (this one)" <Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >>>> I think it's nothing short of hilarious how the Chungish Army
> >>>> flies out of the woodwork when he does one of his
> >>>> so-frequent bonehead posts. Welcome back. Can't say as I've
> >>>> missed you, but I wasn't aiming, so nothing lost.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And I think that you are one of the biggest a-holes on Usenet
> >>> by continuing to attack Dr. Chung simply because you are in the
> >>> business of selling food,
> >>
> >> Um, I don't have any restaurants any more. Haven't owned one for
> >> almost a decade.
> >
> > You should make up your mind about whether you are retired or not.
> > Perhaps you should take another vacation, dear neighbor whom I
> > love.
>
> See if you can follow this very simple bit of reasoning. Just because
> I don't have restaurants doesn't mean I'm retired. Just as because you
> don't have restaurants, you aren't retired.
>
You can be in the business of selling food without owning restaurants,
dear neighbor whom I love.
>
> See how simple truth can be?
>
Yes, truth is simple.
>
> >> If you believe that's the reason (as though there's only one!) I
> >> dispute Chung, then you are cursed with an inability to see
> >> Chung in the real light of his actions. Your observation is too
> >> superficial and trivial for serious discourse.
> >
> > Your judgment.
>
> Yes.
>
Glad you agree.
>
> >>> and Dr. Chung happens to recommend a 2 lb diet approach.
> >>
> >> I am critical of Chung for his absurd "diet" as well as his
> >> fraudulence.
> >
> > Such untruths undermines your credibility, dear neighbor whom I
> > love.
>
> Let's see what could be untrue in that sentence. I am critical of
> Chung for is absurd diet. True. I am critical of Chung for his
> fraudulence. True. All looks true.
Your judgment.
>
>
> >> His deliberate malice.
> >
> > As if being openly Christian were malice.
>
> Being openly Christian isn't malicious. Being malicious, however, is.
>
Seems your logic is circular.
>
> >> His quackery.
> >
> > Do you believe there is any credibility left to undermine?
>
> Actually not much. You do occasionally give good medical advice. But
> when it comes to nutrition, you're a quack.
>
Yes, it does some like you do not have anymore credibility to undermine.
>
> >> His mistakes that he refuses to correct.
> >
> > Christ has "corrected" all my sins.
>
> Pity he hasn't corrected your numbers for calories in different foods.
The calorie estimates I have posted are valid ones for purposes of helping
people lose weight.
It seems that you hate those estimates because they will compel you to eat
less. Come to think of it, that is also why you hate the 2PD Approach.
Clearly you have not retired from the food industry yet.
Truth is simple.
>
> And your understanding of human nutrition. And your ideas about
> caloric usage. And aspirin. And precision of measure. And the
> scientific method.
All gifts from God.
>
> >> His sanctimonious use of his preposterous "faith" as a weapon and
> >> means to heap scorn.
> >
> > Sorry my faith in Christ hurts you.
> >
> >> His smug arrogance.
> >
> > Your judgment.
>
> Exactly.
>
Glad you agree.
>
> >> His lousy advice about calories
> >
> > The 2PD Approach is not about calories.
>
> So you say.
...and I remain truthful.
> But then you imply (without ever coming out and saying it)
> that you can't eat just any 2 pounds of food.
Your judgment (shrug).
> If some foods can't be
> eaten and still be within the guidelines, then there's another
> variable at hand.
Correct. For this reason, the 2PD Approach guidelines limit amount of
food and nothing else.
> That could only be <trumpet fanfare> calories.
>
You may read the 2PD Approach instructions at
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp as many times as you like to find a
reference to calories. You will not find it.
>
> >> and his belief that dieters should be lied to about caloric
> >> content and usage.
> >
> > It is my belief that dieters should ignore calories if they are
> > unable to reliably measure it.
>
> So you say.
...and I remain truthful.
> But how about your idea that we should be telling dieters
> that potatoes and bread contain thousands of calories when it's
> plainly false?
Estimates are never false.
Truth is simple.
> That's the kind of lying I meant.
>
It remains my choice to be truthful.
>
> How about when they can't reliably measure the weight of what they're
> eating? Like when you eat half a lunch and take the rest home to
> weigh. How can you be sure that it's exactly half?
Reliability and exactness are not the same.
> You say you're
> taking it home to weigh. That means you don't have a scale with you.
Sometimes I don't carry a food scale with me.
>
> Oh, the holes in your story...
>
What holes?
>
> >>> People are free to read Dr. Chung's posts, or not.
> >>
> >> As they are with yours and mine.
> >
> > You are welcome to post as much as you please, dear neighbor whom I
> > love.
>
> <LOL> Like you have a choice.
>
It remains my choice to welcome you, dear neighbor whom I love.
>
> > Just because I often choose to ignore you does not mean I want to
> > gag you.
>
> <LOL> How sincere that sounds.
Sorry the truth hurts you.
> While your clone MU_n (this is an
> archaic word meaning "mouth" - mun=mouth - how utterly perfect. He
> seems not to know it. Like when he called himself "fishbone" in
> French.) gleefully gloats about pushing Stephen out the door.
>
That is his choice.
>
> Your ignoring me is essentially irrelevant to, well, anything.
Sorry my ignoring you has hurt you, nonetheless, dear neighbor whom I
love.
> BUt it
> seems like you've called out all your minions recently.
A servant has no minions.
> And a fine
> show it is. Little sputtering fireworks that generate a little heat
> but no light.
>
It seems you have been stricken blind.
You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love.
May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the incredible riches of His
everlasting kingdom.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
-- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867
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