Re: Just to let you know Mark was all clear Andrew...

From: Bob (this one) (Bob_at_nospam.com)
Date: 08/20/04 

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:50:42 -0400

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Mozz wrote:
>
>>>DISCERNMENT: The spiritual capability to distinguish between truth and error,
>>>and to identify deception in character and in relationships. (1 Corinthians
>>>12:10, "distinguishing between spirits.")
>>>
>>>Distinctives: Discernment is a keen sense of insight that enables someone to
>>>recognize potential or actual problems in relationships, imbalance in teachings,
>>>the presence of demonic activity, or misuse of scripture. Discernment must
>>>be based on knowing Biblical truth. Once this person knows the truth, they
>>>can clearly pick out problems or important steps that need to be taken.
>>>
>>>Cautions: Many of us have known people that are very discerning and perhaps
>>>gifted, but what they do with that discernment is far from God's will. They
>>>have great insight, but then take on the role of the Holy Spirit to expose
>>>and correct problems in the other person's life on their own time schedule.
>>>If you have this gift, learn to use it skillfully by seeking help from others
>>>who are gifted in wisdom, counseling, and shepherding.
>>>
>>And that was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Christian
>>fundamentalist believers!
>
> I see no radio station here.

Is this some effort at cleverness? It certainly adds nothing to the
discourse.

>>The above definition is awash with bias and partiality.
>
> Your disputing a definition for it does not support your assertion that
> God's gift of truth discernment does not exist.

It's an "observation" about the definition. It's a way of looking at
the definition with clear eyes rather than the biased ones that wrote
it. No effort to disprove it at this point.

>>Any religious or spiritual creed could lay claim to a form of so
>>called 'spiritual discernment' - ie: replace the biblical quote with a
>>similar one from the Talmud / Vedas / Buddhist Canon / Venusians etc
>>and lo & behold you have the 'whatever' spiritual discernment.
>
> You seem to be backpedalling from your earlier claim the God's gift of
> truth discernment does not exist.

Read it again. He says it's such a common self-praise that *anyone*
could lay claim to it merely by doing that out-of-context quotation
thing from any religious treatise.

That's where the disproof begins to form. And if your words are what
you offer as proof for your "gift" then the very features you claim
are obviously in absence. You simply don't get it and you keep proving it.

Bob

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