Re: LOSING (WATER) WEIGHT (THE ATKINS WAY)

From: Nashville Pete (poremskinospam_at_comcast.net)
Date: 08/30/04


Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:59:22 -0500


"magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Nashville Pete" <poremskinospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > Dr., please read this week's (Late August 2004) Medline post on Low Carb
> > nutrition. You need to bring yourself up to date with the latest
research
> > before you post this this kind of stuff under your name.......FOR SHAME!
> >
> >
>
> Fatkins diet makes you lose water weight and your breath stinks and you
> give off a bad odor (smell like rotting flesh or death, to me). How
> pleasant.
> Ketosis is also dangerous because the body will start digesting lean
muscle
> mass eventually. Ketosis also occurs in people with anorexia nervosa.
> Prolonged ketosis might also produce endorphins and painkillers, producing
a
> "high". People might feel great but they are screwing up their bodies.
>
> My mom is on this retarded diet (so is my dad). She is now on
cholesterol
> lowering drugs. She really hasn't lost much weight, either, despite
eating
> all those bunless burgers. If it causes weightloss at all, it is small,
> and due to caloric restriction. People would be much better off to eat
> whole-grain rice and breads instead of indicting carbohydrates as evil.
The
> brain, after all, must live on carbs, it cannot feed off protein at all.
>
> A study just showed that drinking or eating grapefruit lowered insulin
> levels in overweight individuals (and the people lost 3 lbs on average
> without changing anything else). This flies in the face of Fatkins
wisdom
> that fruit raises blood sugar.
>
> There is also little evidence that being overweight, but not obese, is
> very bad for society in the long run. The moderately overweight do not
have
> decreased life expectancy, for instance. People should be more worried
> about eating good, healthy food, than losing weight, IMO (especially since
> weight loss in women often leads to eating disorders). Cut out the
junkfood
> and sugary soda pop, not the whole wheat bread.
>
Here are some recent results:

Journal Watch Cardiology
July 9, 2004
Time to Take Low-Carb Diets Seriously?
Posted 08/10/2004

Summary
In two randomized trials, researchers compared low-carbohydrate diets with
low-fat diets to assess effects on cholesterol levels and weight loss.

In a 24-week study, 120 overweight, hyperlipidemic adults (mean BMI, 34)
were randomized to eat a low-carbohydrate diet (starting at <20 g/day of
carbs, plus nutritional supplements) or a low-fat diet (<30% of daily energy
from fat, <300 mg of daily cholesterol, and intake of 500-1000 kcal/day less
than usual). Both groups received exercise recommendations and support at
group meetings. The retention rate was significantly higher in the low-carb
group than in the low-fat group (76% vs. 57%). By 24 weeks, low-carb dieters
had fared significantly better than low-fat dieters in mean weight loss
(-12.0 kg vs. -6.5 kg), triglyceride change (-74 mg/dL vs. -28 mg/dL), and
HDL change (+5.5 mg/dL vs. -1.6 mg/dL); LDL changes were similar in the two
groups.

In another study (a 1-year follow-up of previously reported 6-month results;
Journal Watch Cardiology Aug 8 2003), 132 severely obese adults (mean BMI,
43; about half with hyperlipidemia, about 40% with diabetes) were randomized
to eat a low-carb diet (</=30 g/day of carbs) or a conventional calorie- and
fat-restricted diet (intake of 500 kcal/day less than usual, </=30% of
calories from fat). Both groups received support at group meetings. At 1
year, the low-carb and low-fat groups did not differ significantly in
retention rates (69% and 63%) or mean weight loss (-5.1 kg and -3.1 kg).
However, low-carb dieters fared significantly better than low-fat dieters in
changes in mean triglyceride levels (-58 mg/dL vs. +4 mg/dL), HDL (-1 mg/dL
vs. -5 mg/dL), and hemoglobin A1C (-0.7% vs. -0.1%); LDL changes were
similar in the two groups.

Comment
Results from these studies should mitigate concerns about adverse lipid
effects of low-carbohydrate diets, and even suggest some benefit. Some
caveats are that dropout rates were high (particularly among low-fat dieters
in the shorter study), dietary adherence was suboptimal, and (in the longer
study) 6-month weight-loss advantages in the low-carb group eventually were
reduced. Nevertheless, one can no longer dismiss low-carbohydrate dieting as
fad. An editorialist recommends encouraging overweight patients to engage in
regular physical activity and to experiment with various diets, including
low-carb, with an emphasis on healthy sources of fat and protein.

- Joel M. Gore, MD

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