Re: Pravachol verses Lipitor ?

From: Bill (xxx_at_yy.zz)
Date: 09/12/04 

Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:18:21 GMT

"Caploc" <caploc30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WXN0d.27460$D7.8988@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Steve Marcus wrote:
>> "Zee" <fresh~horses@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> news:chv929$iqv@odak26.prod.google.com...
>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>NIH, ICMJE, Cochrane Collaboration--all have said pharmas (with FDA
>>>collusion) have withheld vital (no pun intended) information from the
>>>public.
>>>
>>>I believe in the public right to know.
>>>
>>>Zee
>>
>>
>> Indeed. Yet for every article that you post that casts medical
>> professionals and/or the pharmaceutical industry in a bad light,there are
>> at least a hundred that cast them in a good light. If you wish to
>> facilitate the public's right to know, one would expect you to post a more
>> balanced spectrum of information.
>>
>> Again, for every person who cannot tolerate statins, there are literally
>> tens of thousands who can, do and benefit from statins.
>>
>> Steve
>
> So stuff those that can't..... eh Steve, majority rules and all that.
>
> Problem is as I see it, there is no back door, no way out, no fix once
> damaged, that's what makes taking this drug like a game of Russian Roulette.
>

It's an interesting analogy. In this case, there is also somebody else firing
bullets at you in the form of heart attacts. Most of the time when you pull
the trigger on your gun nothing happens. Some of the time when you pull the
trigger a shield goes up and saves you from being shot by the other guy.
Sometimes you are shot by the outsider anyway. And, yes, every once in a while
you shoot yourself.

But, at the end of the day, there is no doubt that for some groups of people
statins are more helpful than harmful. There is also no doubt that some people
should not get statins. The rational discussion should be which group is which
and what are the side effects, how should they be recognized, delt with, etc.

Bill

> And to those that are damaged, who cares, certainly not the Doctors,
> Pharmo's,....if the light is a bit bad for some of those professionals maybe
> by removing their blinkers would allow them to see outside their consulting
> rooms and into the lounge rooms of those who have been damaged.
>
> Zee is bringing informed (by experience) and documented information to those
> contemplating taking this drug, and I hope she continues to do so.
>
> Ahem,
> Cappy
> (Still trying to out run the death grip clutches of Statin therapy)
>
>
>

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