Re: Pravachol verses Lipitor ?

From: Steve Marcus (smarcus_spamout__at_cox.net)
Date: 09/12/04 

Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 08:59:39 -0400

"Caploc" <caploc30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WXN0d.27460$D7.8988@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Steve Marcus wrote:
> > "Zee" <fresh~horses@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:chv929$iqv@odak26.prod.google.com...
> >
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>NIH, ICMJE, Cochrane Collaboration--all have said pharmas (with FDA
> >>collusion) have withheld vital (no pun intended) information from the
> >>public.
> >>
> >>I believe in the public right to know.
> >>
> >>Zee
> >
> >
> > Indeed. Yet for every article that you post that casts medical
> > professionals and/or the pharmaceutical industry in a bad light,there
are
> > at least a hundred that cast them in a good light. If you wish to
> > facilitate the public's right to know, one would expect you to post a
more
> > balanced spectrum of information.
> >
> > Again, for every person who cannot tolerate statins, there are literally
> > tens of thousands who can, do and benefit from statins.
> >
> > Steve
>
> So stuff those that can't..... eh Steve, majority rules and all that.

Who said that? What I wrote was that publishing information that is skewed
and biased in order to scare people off of something that will help the vast
majority of them is not servicing "the public's right to know."

>
> Problem is as I see it, there is no back door, no way out, no fix once
> damaged, that's what makes taking this drug like a game of Russian
Roulette.

That is not so. For many, if not most (I don't have exact numbers), side
effects of statins are reversed once use ceases.

And, I am not aware of people being damaged within so short a time that had
they been effectively monitored, *as recommended by health professionals and
the pharmaceutical companies who make and sell statins*, they would not have
suffered any damage at all. Every statin drug comes with a list of side
effects, a list of contraindications, a list of drug interactions that are
potentially harmful, a warning to report the side effects, and a statement
that tests for monitoring potential harmful effects are necessary. Indeed,
the vast majority of drugs of all comes come with all of the above save only
the requirement for testing.

>
> And to those that are damaged, who cares, certainly not the Doctors,
> Pharmo's,....if the light is a bit bad for some of those professionals
> maybe by removing their blinkers would allow them to see outside their
> consulting rooms and into the lounge rooms of those who have been damaged.

This is highly inaccurate. I am not aware that doctors and people in the
pharmaceutical industries don't care.

>
> Zee is bringing informed (by experience) and documented information to
> those contemplating taking this drug, and I hope she continues to do so.

She is bringing highly one sided and biased information to a forum where
people are seeking help. Any competent physician will fully inform a
patient of the potentially harmful side effects of any drug being
prescribed. You cannot fill the prescription without receiving a rather
lengthy written instruction and information paper that describes drug
interactions and possible harmful effects. The problem, if there is one, is
that people don't listen.

>
> Ahem,
> Cappy
> (Still trying to out run the death grip clutches of Statin therapy)

Sure.

Steve 

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