Re: Quiting statin drugs

From: Bill (xxx_at_yy.zz)
Date: 09/22/04 

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:11:43 GMT

"fresh~horses" <fresh~horses@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:abf8de5b.0409221221.5379ff8e@posting.google.com...
> "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
> news:<DTf4d.11439$C47.4447@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
>> "Zee" <fresh~horses@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> news:1095862362.325648.304710@k17g2000odb.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Bill wrote:
>> >> "fresh~horses" <fresh~horses@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:abf8de5b.0409220547.5dd66d40@posting.google.com...
>> >> > "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<jD84d.22437$ZC7.20089@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>...
>> >> >> "Zee" <fresh~horses@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1095830494.769891.95940@k26g2000oda.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Bill. It is a story from the Bible. For heaven's sake lighten
>> up!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do you realize that this thread that began with a man asking for
>> help,
>> >> >> > and being burned off, and then responding in a very worrisome
>> depressed
>> >> >> > sounding and desperate manner, has been completely diverted by
>> trivial
>> >> >> > posts?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am worried sick about this man. I have friends on the brink of
>> >> >> > suicide because of statin damage, and the disbelief and
>> callousness of
>> >> >> > persons who prefer to parse decimal points.
>> >> >> > Are you right? WHO GIVES A FLYING ***?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Zee
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So what you are saying is you do not care if the information you
>> or I give
>> >> >> here to this person is correct or not. Is that right?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And if you do not care about whether the information is correct
>> why then do
>> >> >> you continue to debate it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And getting back to the original post. The information I provided
>> was
>> >> >> absolutely on point. If he did not have a high CK levels, my point
>> was that
>> >> >> there was a good chance myopathy would reverse upon discontinuance
>> of the
>> >> >> statin - based on the literature. Why do you not give a "flying
>> ***" about
>> >> >> this? Are you really trying to help people?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You need to find the truth in yourself that makes you behave as
>> you do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Here's a little truth for you this morning Bill:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Write that down right after my name--robre's a fool. With my
>> >> > deteriorating physical condition, there is less and less I can do.
>> >> > Less exercise, and less vigorous exercise. With a bad heart, how
>> long
>> >> > do you think I'm going to live that way--if I can't even walk!
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been round and round with the doc with no results.
>> >> > Unfortunately, I do not have the luxury of getting second opinions
>> >> > with my wonderful insurance. I'm working on getting a different
>> doc
>> >> > altogether, though.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Robre"
>> >>
>> >> What is your point?
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Here is the only truth that mattered last night.
>> > Zee
>> >
>>
>> No it mattered - to me anyway - that you threatened to kill me. It mattered
>> that you said you did not care if good information was given to the person
>> who
>> needed help - except you used different words. What's the point of showing
>> a
>> person needs help if you fight with someone who offers help?
>>
>> Bill
>
>
>
> I have been trained to tell story, moving from general to specific,
> using personal example as illustration. You have been trained to
> remain in theory. You demand (implicitly and explicitly) that I
> conform to your way. You refuse to acknowledge that my way has equal
> viability and verity. By doing this you demean me, the way I think,
> and what I can do. What I can do has been made less by this drug. I
> have lost capability of new learning. I cannot learn the way you do
> it. Once I may have.
>
> This is how I express myself. There are Nobel and Pulitzer prize
> winners who express themselves this way too.
>
> And you have yet to apologize to me for your fatuous and ludicrous
> statement about the Bible story.
>
>
> Zee

You threaten to murder me and now believe I should apologize to you?

And you do not know if your problems were caused by statins much less whether
they generalize to a wider population, and, if so, how wide.

Bill

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