Re: Dartmouth study suggests caution against using certain drugs to unclog heart arteries

From: fresh~horses (fresh~horses_at_despammed.com)
Date: 10/13/04 

Date: 13 Oct 2004 02:25:36 -0700

listener <listener@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<Xns95808BE74AF94some1outthere@38.144.126.106>...
> William Wagner <Non11Spamb2wagner@snip.net> wrote in
> news:Non11Spamb2wagner-BB5228.12081512102004@altnews.snip.net:
>
> > In article <abf8de5b.0410120719.258d442b@posting.google.com>,
> > fresh~horses@despammed.com (fresh~horses) wrote:
> >
> >> William Wagner <Non11Spamb2wagner@snip.net> wrote in message
> >> news:<Non11Spamb2wagner-11F25A.06515412102004@altnews.snip.net>...
> >> > Public release date: 11-Oct-2004
> >>
> >>
> >> So. When we have an angioplasty to corrrect blockage, it makes it
> >> worse.
> >>
> >> "This duality could make both angiogenesis-promoting and
> >> angiogenesis-suppressing drugs ineffective in preventing renarrowing
> >> of arteries following angioplasty or stenting. "In fact,
> >> pro-angiogenic drugs could make things worse, not better," Simons
> >> said. "If you're going to use an angiogenic agent, it will do harm,
> >> because it will actually promote stenosis [narrowing] instead of
> >> inhibiting it."
> >>
> >> Isn't it fun watching the children play? With our money?
> >>
> >> Zee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Contact: Andrew Nordhoff
> >> > mednews@dartmouth.edu
> >> > 603-650-1492
> >> > Dartmouth Medical School
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dartmouth study suggests caution against using certain drugs to
> >> > unclog
> >> > heart arteries
> >
> >
> > Ah ....Zee you have cut right to the chase as usual.
> >
> > Iıd just add ³With our lives?³
> >
> > Quite a disturbing citation with lots of implications. You got to
> > hope (Pray Andrew?) they are wrong but the word caution means
> > different things to different folks ( Had to write that ...Mea
> > Cupa). I guess risk analyses folks will beat on this for awhile.
> >
> > Meanwhile live hard and long!
> >
> > William(Bill)
> >
>
> Rather than view it as right or wrong, perhaps it's more sensible to see it
> as ongoing research in a very complicated field that is evolving rapidly
> and can be full of contradictory information. These studies aid in refining
> and redifining the techniques. I certainly don't view them as children
> playing with our money - in itself, an immature point of view.
>
> Of course, risk/benefit costs still apply.
>
> L.

Will you stop this?

 "I certainly don't view them as children playing with our money - in
itself, an immature point of view."

I don't think other posters want you talking to me through them. And I
would appreciate, as I have been saying to you over and over and
over... rational co-operative discourse between us; no more no less.

Zee

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