Re: Dr. Atkins' Dietetic Revolution: Mu Critique?

From: Mirek Fídler (cxl_at_volny.cz)
Date: 12/10/04 

Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:20:34 +0100

>> Is this claim of yours still based on single croatian study?
>
> The biochemistry of hyperketonemia causing higher rates of lipid
> peroxidation (via increased production of reactive oxygen species or
> ROS) has been confirmed multiple times by more than one independent
> group.

Actually, I tend to agree with you about this topic, I was just curious if
there is something else to read about it...

In the end, in a very simplified way, if ketones are there to substitute
glucose (not quite correct, but let us say so), and we all know that high
glucose levels are dangerous, it seems to be logical that high ketone levels
are dangerous too.

Anyway, now the question is what level of ketones is dangerous and how much
carbs you need to avoid it... I guess that with more than 70g/day you will
hardly exceed 1mmol/dl... From what I know, some people are unable to pass
this limit even at "atkins induction" levels, as there is quite effective
insulin feedback mechanism... (which, surprisingly, seems to work well even
for TypeII diabetics - perhaps much slower absorbtion of fat is the cause).

In any case it seems very stupid to me to overeat fat just to get better
ketostick results...

> President Clinton's recent experience with low-carbing would be a new
> development.

Actually, IF Clinton's recent experience was caused by dietary
hyperketonemia, THEN he was NOT following his choosen plan (SB diet is
non-ketogenic).

Mirek