Re: FDA Calls Crestor Ads 'False and Misleading'

From: Mark Probert (Probert_at_lumbercartel.com)
Date: 12/24/04


Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:37:44 -0500


"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1103897365.0f112decc921452c0d3cbdc981caa9c8@teranews...
> Mark Probert wrote:
> >
> > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:1103844990.0d561ce0ae5b1a91963b26e207c39021@teranews...
> > > Mark Probert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "James Stein" <NoSpamForMeThanks@si.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:UbGyd.26700$kq2.2515@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark Probert" <Mark Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:xXByd.4118$R_.1680@fe08.lga...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1103816544.372673.129810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Daniel Ganek wrote:
> > > > > >> > TC wrote:
> > > > > >> > > RobJ wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >>New York Times
> > > > > >> > >>December 23, 2004
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>F.D.A. Calls Ads for Cholesterol Pill Crestor 'False and
> > > > > >> Misleading'
> > > > > >> > >>By GARDINER HARRIS
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>WASHINGTON - AstraZeneca's recent full-page newspaper
> > > > > >> advertisements
> > > > > >> > >>defending the safety of its cholesterol-lowering pill,
Crestor,
> > are
> > > > > >> > >>"false and misleading," in part because serious concerns
remain
> > > > > >> about
> > > > > >> > >>the safety of the drug, federal drug regulators said
Wednesday.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>The advertisements stated that "the F.D.A. has confidence
in
> > the
> > > > > >> > >>safety and efficacy of Crestor" and that the agency "as
> > recently as
> > > > > >> > >>last Friday publicly confirmed that Crestor is safe and
> > effective."
> > > > > >> > >>Neither is true, said a letter from the Food and Drug
> > > > > >> Administration
> > > > > >> > >>to AstraZeneca.
> > > > > >> > [[ SNIP ]]
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Lookee, lookee, the FDA is actually trying to look as if it
is
> > > > > >> doing
> > > > > >> > > something useful now. Too little too late, eh?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > TC
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I'm neither for nor against the FDA, BUT, wasn't it just a
few
> > years
> > > > > >> > ago we were all bitching that the FDA took TOO long to
approve
> > drugs?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Now, we're all bitching and moaning that they're not during
their
> > job
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > letting drugs on the market too soon!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > /dan
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Were we? I don't think so. Unless by "we" you are talking about
the
> > > > > >> pharma industry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "We" were. "We" being people who were hearing about treatments
in
> > the
> > > > > > development stages for conditions where there was no treatment
or no
> > > > > > relief.
> > > > > > "We" demanded a shorter process.
> > > > >
> > > > > You should know by now: The ideal FDA needs to approve all
effective
> > safe
> > > > > drugs overnight, and will catch all harmful and ineffective drugs
> > > > > immediately.
> > > > >
> > > > > And that little nonsense about a process for distinguishing
between
> > the
> > > > two?
> > > > > The public's not concerned with that.
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. There are those who expect perfection from the FDA and all
> > > > humankind.
> > >
> > >
> > > Enter Christ Jesus :-)
> >
> > As a Jew, I find being proselytized offensive. Please do not respond to
me
> > again in this manner.
>
> Sorry my being openly Christian offends you (please forgive me):

Your being openly Christian is not what I found offensive. I specifically
stated that your response was, IMNSHO, proselytizing, and that is what I
found offensive. I trust that you are not claiming that being "openly
Christian" is the equivalent of proselytizing. If so, then your definition,
which is not the same as others, is offensive.

And, even after I asked you not to do it again, you did it. That is
offensive.



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