Re: FDA, User Fees, Adverse Effects, and Safety

From: Don Kirkman (donkirk_at_covad.net)
Date: 03/27/05


Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:50:41 -0800

It seems to me I heard somewhere that listener wrote in article
<Xns9626A7E5EF67listenernospamnet@38.144.126.105>:

>Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote in
>news:s6vd41pnosindg31uqrhpe79tnqrkb4ouu@4ax.com:

>> My point in this particular message was that one person specifically
>> mentioned statins, which Sharon had NOT done in her OP (which I
>> applauded). I was trying to make that point very clear before the
>> thread went off track, but apparently I failed.

>>From the original post "FDA, User Fees, Adverse Effects, and Safety":

>"What is the scope of the impact of prescription drug adverse effects? Is
>only the patient at risk? Clearly not. For example, the schoolhouse
>murder-suicide shootings last week indicate that the harm from drug
>side-effects can literally come to anyone within gunshot range. According
>to the news reports coming in, the disturbed student was taking Prozac, a
>drug linked with suicide and violence in youth last January.

>Why is this significant? For those who missed the headlines last January
>(or for those who are experiencing failing memory due to statin meds), a
>couple of references:"

>And later in the same post:

>"In the case I am closest to, statin adverse effects..."

I was more detailed in my original post, in which I noted that Sharon
had not linked statins to the Red Lake case but that she had used
"statin(s)" in referring to her own experiences.

For the record, I believe it was a doctor who threw in the bit about
statins to which I responded:

>Message-ID: <4245ADCB.8F6053D2@heartmdphd.com>

>Jeff wrote:

>> What does this have to do with cardiology?

>Adverse effects of statins.

The relevant part of my response was:

"Was the shooter on statins?* If so, why, at his age? If so, why has
that not been reported? And in the absence of reports how can we know?

"* Or, as some might say, "who said anything about statins?".

"FWIW, and in the interests of honesty, truth, and full disclosure
Sharon Hope did not associate statins with this case of violence. Her
only references to statins were in relation to her own experience, which
is appropriate."

-- 
Don
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed
us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their
use.                                --Galileo Galilei


Relevant Pages

  • Re: Statins and side effects......
    ... Sharon Hope wrote: ... Injuries posted here include my husband's injuries over 4 years of Lipitor that have not fully recovered after 4 years off Lipitor, specifically muscle damage, pain, fatigue, neuropathy, aphasia, memory loss, amnesia, and more. ... Studies posted on adverse effects do not deal in long term treatment with adverse effects, nor typically do they followup for a full 4 years. ... I don't have an awful lot of free time on my hands, but I wanted to take a few minutes to try a few searches on "Statins Adverse Effects". ...
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  • Re: Statins and side effects......
    ... Studies posted on adverse effects do not deal in long term treatment ... "A safety look at currently available statins" from 2002: ... "Possible adverse events of statins were suffered by 60 patients ... ... And frankly, I wasn't even really trying, Sharon. ...
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  • Re: Anti-cholesterol drug combo okay for muscles
    ... I know you and Sharon justify your one-sided viewpoint by claiming that people who post articles that are not critical of statins are employed by or paid by pharma to do that. ... reports have linked "statin" drugs, like simvastatin, with muscle side effects.."), like Sharon does in her posts. ... NEW YORK - Ezetimibe plus simvastatin, ...
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    ... >>> is lost to statins is sequence. ... That is exactly what the statins do. ... >>> Sharon ... We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. ...
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  • Re: Note to Sharon Hope
    ... >> I fully realize that the side effects re: statins are rare. ... >> seem to not be concerned for those thousands of people (like Sharon ... >> articles showing the pictures of crime victims over the past 20 years. ...
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