Re: Study: Statins Lower Advanced Prostate Cancer Risk


William Wagner wrote:
> In article <1114023320.267759.50520@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "elgoog" <bjdefend-newsgroups@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Jim Chinnis wrote:
> > > "elgoog" <bjdefend-newsgroups@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in part:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Jim Chinnis wrote:
> > > >> "Juhana Harju" <shantigiri@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in part:
> > > >>
> > > >> >listener wrote:
> > > >> >:: "Juhana Harju" <shantigiri@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> > > >> >:: news:3cl274F6imrpjU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> > > >> >::
> > > >> >::: listener wrote:
> > > >> >::::: LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Cholesterol-lowering drugs
known as
> > > >> >::::: statins may slash a man's risk of advanced prostate
cancer,
> > > >> >::::: according to research presented Monday.
> > > >> >:::::
> > > >> >::::: A study that followed more than 34,000 men over 10
years
> > found
> > > >> >::::: that men who used statins had half the risk of advanced
> > > >prostate
> > > >> >::::: cancer and one- third the risk of fatal prostate
cancer,
> > > >compared
> > > >> >::::: with men who did not use the drugs.
> > > >> >:::::
> > > >> >::::: Statins -- which include Pfizer Inc.'s $10
billion-a-year
> > > >Lipitor,
> > > >> >::::: [...]
> > > >> >:::
> > > >> >::: There are definitely healthier and cheaper means to
reduce
> > > >prostate
> > > >> >::: cancer risk than the use of statins.
> > > >> >:::
> > > >> >:: OK. Please show us some studies using something other than
a
> > > >statin
> > > >> >:: that show tens of thousands of men over a multi-year
period
> > > >halving
> > > >> >:: their risk of advanced prostate cancer and lowering by
> > one-third
> > > >> >:: their risk of *fatal* prostate cancer. I would be curious
to
> > read
> > > >> >:: any legitimate studies you can offer. Really.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >There is perhaps no singular way to reduce prostate cancer
risk
> > as
> > > >much. But
> > > >> >it is possible to reduce the risk at least as much by combing
> > some
> > > >dietary
> > > >> >means: reducing animal protein intake, taking care of
adequate
> > > >vitamin D
> > > >> >intake, by drinking red wine, using certain spices, fish oils
> > etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't see the kinds of evidence of the kinds of benefits
> > > >> listener asked about. A nice dietary preventive would be
terrific,
> > > >> but the evidence remains unclear. Besides, I get my veggies
> > > >> already, including tomatoes (lycopene) and nuts (selenium).
> > > >> Despite that, I figure my absolute PCa risk is quite a bit
higher
> > > >> than my absolute risk of an MI or stroke. So I'd be quite
happy to
> > > >> learn that statins reduce mortality from the primary lethal
cancer
> > > >> in non-smoking men such as myself by one-third!
> > > >> --
> > > >> Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
> > > >
> > > >I think statins serve a medicinal purpose. I think its up to
each of
> > us
> > > >to avoid the need for drugs as best we can by making the best
> > choices
> > > >possible. As more information becomes available, we can adjust
our
> > > >habits accordingly - always applying a healthy skepticism and
> > provided
> > > >adequate research. ;-)
> > > >
> > > >Here's another study that shows the benefits of green tea in
> > reducing
> > > >prostate cancer risk,
> > > >
> > > >Green Tea May Curb Prostate Cancer in Men at Risk
> > >
> >
>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=571&e=13&u=/nm/cancer_greente
> > >a_dc
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Taking 3 to 4 gallons a day of green tea isn't exactly
necessarily
> > > any safer than taking a statin. Green tea has some potential
> > > risks--at least those due to its interference with folate and RNA
> > > transcription. Methotrexate might halt the progression to PCa as
> > > well....
> > >
> > > I like randomized trials, though. So much of the work that gets
> > > cited is based on observational studies where no amount of
> > > tweaking can ever clarify which variables had an effect on
others.
> > > --
> > > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
> >
> > 16 Cups = 1 Gallon(US), so 12-15 cups would be less than one
gallon,
> > but more green tea than I care to drink in a day.
> >
> > I prefer the more moderate approach. I drink 2-3 cups of green tea
per
> > day (decaffeinated with the do-it-yourself method). At any rate,
they
> > were using green tea catechins as supplements and not drinking it.
> >
> > If you are using green tea supplements, you may be getting very
high
> > doses; but, I am not aware of health dangers associated to natural
> > green tea. Hypokalemia has been linked to regular daily consumption
of
> > more than 14 cups of black and oolong (fermented) teas in elderly
> > people.** But, that makes sense because the caffeine content in
> > fermented teas is much higher.
> >
> > Anyway, a properly prepared and decaffeinated cup of green tea is
> > delicious and soothing. There are many purported health benefits of
> > green tea, but these are secondary to the enjoyment.
> >
> > ref.
> > ** Aizaki T, Osaka M, Hara H, et al. Hypokalemia with syncope
caused by
> > habitual drinking of oolong tea. Intern Med. 1999;38(3):252-256
>
> Something to peruse with your tea.
>
> The Book of Tea Kakuzo Okakura
>
> isbn 0-486-20070-1
>
>
> A review from Amazon
>
> The Tempest in Tea Cup, July 28, 2000
> Reviewer:
> "eido" (Ithaca, NY) - See all my reviews
> I haphazardly discovered this book when I had undertaken the task of
> better acquainting myself with tea. Totally ignorant, I opened the
book
> half expecting to find dry writing on types of tea leaves. Instead I
> discovered something deeply beautiful. This book does indeed teach
the
> history of tea and its preparation, but it also provides an eloquent
> introduction to Teaism and other aspects of Japanese culture. Okakura

> wavers most delicately between prose and poetry, between the
educational
> and the spiritual. The words linger with you long after you have
> finished, and tea, once an ordinary beverage, acquires a soul-- a
source
> of peace.
>
> "Teaism is a cult founded on the adoration of the beautiful among the

> sordid facts of everyday existence. It inculcates purity and harmony,

> the mystery of mutual charity, the romanticism of the social order.
It
> is essentially a worship of the Imperfect, as it is a tender attempt
to
> accomplish something possible in this impossible thing we know as
life."
>
> (Chapter One, The Cup of Humanity)
>
> --
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have heard of it, but have not yet picked
it up.

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