Re: LDL cholesterol question



hawki63 wrote:
> "elgoog" <bjdefend-newsgroups@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1116994519.783345.225000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > hawki63 wrote:
> > <<snip>>
> > > most current "acceptable" blood pressure state that 120 systolic (top
> > > number) is statistically better...I would place you in the category of
> > > "slightly elevated..
> >
> > The JNC 7 suggests lifestyle modification for those that are
> > prehypertensive (SBP 120-139 or DBP 80-89). While you are correct that
> > drug therapy would likely not be a good option without some other risk
> > factors, I feel it is less than helpful to not encourage the patient to
> > make lifestyle changes (lose excess weight, diet counseling, exercise)
> > just as the JNC 7 guidelines dictate. See the full report - available
> > in pdf from
> > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/hypertension/jnc7full.htm
> > ...with all due respect.
> >
> > > as for LDL...currenty guidelines for NON high risk folks state about 120
> is
> > > the "number" to aim for..
> > >
> > > now...I would surely not suggest you take statins...no reason to take
> any
> > > risks for side effects...
> > >
> > > but running alone is unlikely to lower either of the numbers you are
> > > concerned with..
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > also...perhaps you don't know that Zee walks/runs around with a total
> > > cholesterol in the 500 range..so she is hardly in a position to be
> making
> > > medical suggestions..
> >
> > Completely and totally irrelevant information. Make your arguments with
> > valid information and you will earn greater respect.
>
>
> funny that you made no mention of Zee's comment to this poster that his
> blood pressure and lipids were both perfectly acceptable...

I generally agreed with your comments. I hope that you do not see my
suggestion as persecution.

> funny also that you seem NOT to have noticed that my reply included "current
> guideline" advice..

But, JNC 7 are current guidelines. There is some discussion that would
make the current guidelines even stricter by considering other risk
factors in the classification of hypertension - these guidelines are
however, not current.

> perhaps it would be far more helpful to challenge comments that are sooooo
> outrageous...than to nit pick mine..

I think the poster now knows what the guidelines are, and hopefully
understands that he/she can improve both cholesterol and BP today
through lifestyle modifications that may help them to forgo medical
drug treatments in the future (or at least delay them until later in
life).

>
> > > those who suggest certain supplements,,ie niacin,,,low salt..and all
> > > that...are on the right track..
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > remember...doctors went to school for a reason...
> >
> > Alas, let the doctors remember why they went to school (to learn).
> > Leave the pontificating to the preachers.
> >
> > > good luck..
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > -elgoog, the more I learn, the less I know.

I know a doctor who seeing the nursing staff struggle to move a heavy
man from a gurney, refused to help. He said that he didn't go to 10
years of medical school to help move patients.

"Sto ancora imparando (I am still learning)." - Michelangelo
-elgoog

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