Re: Dialysis, anyone?


"Bob (this one)" <Bob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
>> "Bob (this one)" <Bob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>
>>>Don Kirkman wrote:
>>>
>>>>It seems to me I heard somewhere that Bill wrote in article
>>>><T3ate.6632$on5.1979@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>>[Re Chung's credentials and advice]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Finally you agree. He is a Dr. and all medical advice he dispensed here
>>>>>is valid.
>
> You utter fucking phony. You know perfectly well that this is absolutely
> untrue. I did no such thing.

I outlined the good he has done and you said "Right."


>
> I stipulated that he's an MD. Period.
>
>>>>I don't think Bob said "all medical advice he dispensed here is valid".
>>>
>>>Of course I didn't and I offered examples to the contrary. Bill and Chung
>>>are equally honest.
>>>
>>>Pastorio
>>
>> Your only example was 81 vs. 325 mg of asprin.
>
> It would be good if you stuck with fact instead of this reduction to suit
> yourself.
>
>> Neither is wrong in the medical community. My only only point, getting back
>> to the original post, is that the medical advice he dispenses here is valid
>> and helpful to people. No one has provided a counter example.
>
> Actually I also discussed his fatuous 2 pound diet which you decided wasn't
> a fit subject. You can't pick and choose what *I* want to discuss. As long
> as he advances that twaddle *as a doctor*, it's medical advice. And it's bad
> advice. Chung is here *as a doctor.* Beyond that, when he advocates prayer
> as a medical prospect, as he has in recent days, it's more faulty advice.
>

Many Drs. advocate that. If you are not religious, you may think of it as a
placebo and comforting.


> And you don't have it quite right. Many people have offered comment about
> specific bits of his advice and documentation why it's not good. But to go
> through his myriad posts to seek them out to try to suit you is a fool's
> errand. If you haven't kept up with what's been posted, it's your issue.
>

Iv'e pretty much kept up and I find no counter examples. You need to just find
one clear one.

> As for no one providing a counter example, you still seem to think people
> should jump through your hoops.

No it is much more simple than that. I think if people make a claim they
should justify it. I said I did not want to discuss the 2lb diet because I
know that will take us down a long road and I'm referring to traditional
medical advice. No one has been able to come up with a single example where he
has given bad advice. He has given such advice many times. So such claims have
no basis.

Bill


>For people who have been around SMC for any period of time, Chung has shown
>himself to be extremely uneven in his information. You don't agree for
>whatever your reasons. Fine. It's your opinion arrayed against a rather
>impressive group including more than a few other doctors who no longer
>frequent the group largely because of Chung's harassment and disagreeable
>behavior.
>
> We're done discussing anything, Bill. It's one thing to offer debate.
> Another to offer flawed logic and falsity.
>

Yes. And you need to recognize that.

> Pastorio


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